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Author Topic: Tips on screening rooms Steve Beverly Film Handler Posts: 83 From: El Paso, Tx., Registered: Nov 2007 posted 11-29-2007 02:43 AM                     Hey Mark, buddy, if you can find me some pilots who are interested in the film business or in a tax write off, I also heard dentists were good, I'll be more than happy, ecstatic even to make you the executive producer of Blood Moon Rising and pay you a percentage of any funding you raise that you will be more than happy with. We're looking a 150 to 200K or 250 to 300 K if we hire 2 name actors for the leads over a 3 week shoot. We will shoot mainly in the deserts around here and can fly you in for production if you want to lend a hand and make some more cash. E-mail me.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 11-29-2007 10:26 AM                     Thanks for the offer but I retired from all that after serving time on over 40 feature productions. Mark  |  IP: Logged Steve Beverly Film Handler Posts: 83 From: El Paso, Tx., Registered: Nov 2007 posted 11-29-2007 02:20 PM                     YES but have you ever executive produced! That's a shame, you sound like the kinda guy we like to work with. Thanks anyway.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 11-29-2007 02:36 PM                        Steve: If you toss in a guaranteed plateful of "crinkle cut" fries every day, Mark might come around.  |  IP: Logged Alan Gouger Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 501 From: Bradenton, FL, USA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 11-29-2007 03:28 PM                        Mark is this you ? http://imdb.com/name/nm0347684/  |  IP: Logged Bill Gabel Film God Posts: 3873 From: Technicolor / Postworks NY, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 11-29-2007 03:36 PM                     WOW Mark You're up 85% on their STARmeter this week.  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 11-29-2007 03:41 PM                     I think I remember him posting about working on "Touched by an Angel" a while back and that's first on the list so that's probably the same Mark. Plus, he's mentioned running the dailies for various stuff.  |  IP: Logged Steve Beverly Film Handler Posts: 83 From: El Paso, Tx., Registered: Nov 2007 posted 11-29-2007 10:25 PM                     Are you kidding I'll offer him TWO guaranteed plateful of "crinkle cut" fries every day 'long with his choice of shake or malt and the best steaks in Texas.....and that says a LOT!  |  IP: Logged Brian Guckian Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 594 From: Dublin, Ireland Registered: Apr 2003 posted 11-30-2007 07:44 AM                     I don't want to have an argument here, but I have to be honest and say I don't buy any of your arguments Steve. If you can't raise sufficient funds to do the job properly, then consider not doing it at all. The problem is that people who operate from the negative low-budget mentality are very bad for the industry because they force down standards and in fact ultimately do people out of their jobs. Let's say I manufacture film production equipment. I have a cost base and sell the product at a reasonable margin. I employ people and have overheads. But now I find I can't sell my products because people are scrimping and scraping and buying used stuff on Ebay, borrowing stuff from friends or whatever. So what's the future for my company? Investors won't touch people who aren't serious and who come from the low-quality low-budget mentality. It's a vicious circle. Respectfully, please think about what you're doing. One more thing - it is wrong IMO to use this website for free consultancy. Instead, you should hire a proper production / post-production consultant (they are a dime a dozen), who can work with you to develop your facility in a cost-effective manner. Engaging somebody on a freelance basis at an hourly rate would not cost the earth. You could also look at why you are trying to develop your own facility rather than supporting existing ones - many filmmakers work long-distance.  |  IP: Logged Steve Beverly Film Handler Posts: 83 From: El Paso, Tx., Registered: Nov 2007 posted 11-30-2007 02:57 PM                     Oh, I APOLOGIZE Big Bri, I was unaware that all film should be shot on brand new equipment in order to keep manufactures in business and maintain the high standards people like yourself demand. Again though, let me just get this straight so I don't offend you anymore, what exactly is "doing the job properly" I mean Hitchcock spent well under a million dollars to make Psycho and Kevin Smith spent 28k to make Clerks, Robert Rodriguez spent 7 grand to make El Mariachi and Blair Which cost 15K, Chasing Amy cost 250K sooooo what exactly would YOU, being an expert on independent film, deem in your omnipotent judgment a "proper" amount of cash to make a feature film? As for asking questions on a public forum,If you had READ my posts, you woulda realized there ARE NO FACILITIES nor are there any local consultants available to support in El Paso and the surrounding area so I'm kinda forced to create one on my own and further more, the only person that seems to have a problem with it is YOU so IIII would recommend that YOU not answer any questions if you feel that seeking advice from people in the know is inappropriate.I personally don't feel the loss of any information or opinions you have given me in this particular thread would be missed. As for MY standards, I'm shooting 35mm anamorphic in spectacular desert locations with a 10 ton grip and lighting truck as support on late model, upgraded cameras that were the premiere Soviet motion picture cameras up until the late 90s, SORRY if that doesn't meet YOUR standards, scooter, but they meet mine so I'll jus' keep on doin' what I'm doin' and you do your thing. You know I also find it a bit hypocritical that the ONE and only feature you worked on (as an assistant editor I might add) on was shot on 16mm and you're criticizing MY standards. [ 11-30-2007, 05:05 PM: Message edited by: Steve Beverly ]  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 11-30-2007 04:54 PM                     quote: Steve Beverly You know I also find it a bit hypocritical that the ONE feature you were an assistant editor on was shot on 16mm and you're criticizing MY standards. Are you saying that only people with low standards get hired to edit 16mm movies? Furthermore, maybe he only edited that one movie... because he deciding editing wasn't something he wanted to do. Unless he didn't try hard at editing that film, how is he being a hypocrite?  |  IP: Logged Steve Beverly Film Handler Posts: 83 From: El Paso, Tx., Registered: Nov 2007 posted 11-30-2007 05:36 PM                     No simply that 16mm isn't generally considered the upper echelon of film making standards which is something he seems to have an issue with, also he seems to speak as an expert on film production siting what is and isn't acceptable film making etiquette and about how making films under less than the perfect conditions and with less money than one would like to have is an insult and detriment to any "real" film maker out there. That sorta eliminates guys like Harmony Corine, Jim Jarmish, The young Kevin Smith and Robert Rodriguez AND a 16 year old Steve Spielberg, not to mention myself and I take exception to such absurd generalizations. As a producer/director my job is to save cash where ever possible but he assumes that because I stretch every penny into copper wire, my production will be a piece of crap, when in fact what I'm doing is using all of the resources available to put as much production value as possible into every frame of film I shoot and for someone to make statements like those proves he has never produced a feature film which is borne out by his resume' THAT"S what I find hypocritical.  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 11-30-2007 05:50 PM                     The confusion is that you seem to be misusing the word "hypocritical." If someone is "hypocritical" it means that their actions belie or go against their own stated beliefs.  |  IP: Logged Steve Beverly Film Handler Posts: 83 From: El Paso, Tx., Registered: Nov 2007 posted 11-30-2007 06:02 PM                     Yes well isn't that exactly what he's doing? He states that "Investors won't touch people who aren't serious and who come from the low-quality low-budget mentality. It's a vicious circle." when 16mm is the ULTIMATE low budget format and far less quality image wise than 35mm anamorphic which he "Respectfully," requests me to "please think about what you're doing." That IS most definitely hypocritical in that by agreeing to help edit somewhat inferior quality 16mm film his actions belie and gone against his own stated beliefs.  |  IP: Logged Brian Guckian Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 594 From: Dublin, Ireland Registered: Apr 2003 posted 11-30-2007 06:21 PM                     Well I obviously touched a nerve Here are some possibilities: a) Commit to raising $ 3 million by the end of March 2008 b) Set up a website or use an existing one and break that figure down into multiple investment slots. 20 slots at $ 50,000 = $ 1 million 100 slots at $ 10,000 = $ 1 million 100 slots at $ 5,000 = $ 500,000 300 slots at $ 1,000 = $ 300,000 1000 slots at $ 200 = $ 200,000 c) Re-boot your business plan and make films people want to see - not inferior product like Blood Moon Rising (Great Date movie! ) Films that connect with audiences and look and sound good. d) Offer a Prospectus based on your re-booted plan and make that available on the website (the web vastly increasing your access to potential Investors). Offer a decent potential return of 5% as you are now in the business of creating quality films that people will pay to see. The scheme will have to be audited and overseen by a lawyer or whatever to make sure it's all above board. e) Money-where-mouth-is time: if you can make the above happen and make it work, I give you my word that I'll invest $ 200, which is commensurate with my current income. I will accept the potential risk; no point in making these proposals if one isn't prepared to stand by them! BTW don't take things too seriously...it's all about challenging mindsets and perceptions and the negative "cheap and nasty" ethos Indeed your job is NOT to "save cash where possible" but to make movies that might mean something to people (in the broadest sense...which e.g. could include great comedy). [BTW to clarify re. 16mm, I did work as an assitant editor going back about 15 years ago, but the films were all products of first-timers and were not in any way meant for mainstream cinema distribution, but primarily for TV screening. Please also be careful using these arguing tactics, because it's like saying that reasonably well-fed people can't voice concerns about world hunger!]  |  IP: Logged

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