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Jack Theakston
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 - posted 03-29-2011 02:06 PM      Profile for Jack Theakston   Email Jack Theakston   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Stephen, it's been my experience that no two D-Cinema presentations are the same currently. When NORTH BY NORTHWEST was presented at the Linwood Dunn (the same venue where I saw ZHIVAGO), it looked great, but a few months later at the Mann and I was sorely disappointed with the presentation (it didn't help that there was a run in the screen).

I've never heard the original 70mm mix on ZHIVAGO, so I can't really comment on the sound.

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Brian Guckian
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It is a pity that for whatever reason, it seems that a 35mm filmout from the 4K master of Dr. Zhivago could not be made on this occasion, as that would be a better option IMO for projection where either 4K SXRD or 4K DLP aren't available.

I recall seeing the 4K restoration of Carousel at the Bradford WW a couple of years back - presented on 35mm - and it was superb (albeit the 55mm o-neg must have helped).

Puzzling why the sound wasn't 100% if it was coming off a 2K DCP.

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Ramon Lamarca Marques
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quote: Stephen Furley
I saw the film yesterday, and I was disappointed by it; I've certainly seen digital look much better. The sky and snow had a very 'digital' look to it, similar artifacts to a DVD shown on a large screen, though much better in quality than a DVD. I've noticed before that grain in the original seems to encode badly, but I don't know why, since digital cinema does not use temporal compression. Overall, the film looked ok, but it wasn't anything special, unlike the 70mm prints which I've seen previously, and which are just about the best blow-ups from 35mm which I've seen.
Stephen, I could not stay for Zhivago but saw Kwai in digital, again from 4K screened in 2K. Well, it is not film and I love film, especially for classic pictures. Some people will say digital is better but in any case I do not think anyone will deny it is different. I prefer film and on classic films I think it is essential they are shown that way, as least in film festivals. River Kwai had some odd colours now and then, very saturated, which is the same I noticed on the Bollywood clip you mention, very saturated colours. I have to say that Kwai mostly looked very good, but it was not film and I find this frustrating. The other interesting point during this widescreen weekend is that a vintage print of Dersu Uzala in 70mm looked much better than anything is offered nowadays in cinemas and that magnetic sound (on the clips of South Pacific and Hello Dolly) sounds much better (fuller and with more dynamics) than the digital sound. I still find digital projection very cold. Somehow I think that electronic images look much better on an electronic device (i.e. plasma screen) than on a white screen.

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