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Cameron Glendinning
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I have. It looked good from memory, I remember it being 1.85 which has confused me as Spielberg has been published stating that the film was shot for the 1.66 ratio!

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David Kilderry
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We were running ET in 70mm at the Forum and in 35mm at the Rapallo next door back in 1982 here in Melbourne. Both were good but the 70mm certainly sounded better at that time. The Forum whilst large, had a short throw for its 42 ft screen, so 70mm was never as razor sharp as it should have been.

The 65mm shot films like 2001 always looked better than the blow-ups like ET. Star Trek 11 and 111 were also a little soft but Right Stuff was very good.

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Louis Bornwasser
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Many, many 70mm blow ups were actually inferior to 35mm scope in picture quality. I recall that E.T. was somewhat grainy. Sound was good, however. Superman II was terrible in 70mm.

70mm died for three reasons:

1. Moveovers were next to impossible unless you had more than 4 70 mm rooms.

2. Picture was unreliable when bad, but excellent when good.

3. Digital audio, especially Dolby Digital, yielded consistently excellent audio. Audio became 70mm's only selling point once DeLuxe got involved and blow-ups were common. Loui

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Blaine Young
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I have an R2 of "Star Trek II" in 70mm lying around somewhere. It would be interesting to see if it has faded and if it was printed on SP or LPP stock.

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Michael Coate
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Blaine... Too bad you aren't in possession of Reel 1 so that you can help me win a bet that on original release, the roman numeral "II" was not a part of the film's on-screen billing.

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Blaine Young
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Let me check a R1 that I have on 35mm and I'll let you know.

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John Wilson
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No 'II' on Wrath Of Khan. I remember that. Ran this in 70mm and 35mm.

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Blaine Young
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Pulled out my R1 35mm. Date code is 1982. It has no "II" on it.

I do have a trailer that does list "II" on the titles. I think it's the same trailer that's featured on the "Director's Edition" DVD.

And it turns out that I have reel 3 of the 70mm print. And it's also on SP stock - and somewhat faded to red.

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Bobby Henderson
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One thing I know for sure about Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan, it was the first movie to feature that classic 70mm logo in its ads. Here's one of my favorite mock ups of it.

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Of course, the '82 Star Trek movie had the "Six Track Dolby Stereo Presentation" thingie underneath rather than the DTS thingie.

Made a little sign with the 70mm logo for Brad to put up in his projection booth.

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Geoff Jones
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quote: Blaine Young
For a booking now, your best bet is probably going to be the 35mm Anniversary print - even with it's politically correct tweakings.
Nooooooo!

I'd pay to see the original cut Back on the Big Screen, especially in 70MM. I wouldn't (and didn't) watch the wuss cut.

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Michael Coate
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quote: John Wilson
No 'II' on Wrath Of Khan. I remember that.
quote: Blaine Young
Pulled out my R1 35mm. Date code is 1982. It has no "II" on it.
Does this mean I have to split my winnings with you? [Wink]

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John Wilson
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Yes. [Wink]

Wrath Of Khan was called Star Trek 'II' everywhere (trailers, TV, newspapers, posters) except on the movie itself. [thumbsup]

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Blaine Young
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When the LaserDisc was issued in 1983, the titles on the film itself had been changed to include the "II" I don't know if there were any actual prints struck and shown at theaters that had the "II", but every video encarnation has had it.

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John Wilson
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From memory...same thing happened with the original 'Superman' (1978)

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Claude S. Ayakawa
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Warner Home Video is well known for altering the original title cards from their old movies when they release them on DVD.

-Claude

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