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Michael Coate
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quote: Claude S. Ayakawa
Warner Home Video is well known for altering the original title cards from their old movies when they release them on DVD.
Claude, such as...?

Warner, as far as I can tell, has never tampered with the title of "Superman." I think John's point was that "Superman" (1978) is similar to "Star Trek (II): The Wrath Of Khan" (1982) in that the on-screen billing is, simply, "Superman" whereas the movie's promotional material typically refers to it as "Superman: The Movie."

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Ron Keillor
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Spielberg has been published stating that the film was shot for the 1.66 ratio!
quote: Michael Coate was the last to post

That might account for the odd reel in the 70mm print at the Park, Vancouver BC that was definitely printed in a ratio that differed from the rest of the print (reel 4, I think). The projectionist coped with that by masking the ports as the distrib wasn't interested in replacing the reel!

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Paul Linfesty
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quote:
Spielberg has been published stating that the film was shot for the 1.66 ratio!
But weren't there a number of films shot 1.66 and protected for 1.85? I saw several films at the Chinese Theatre in Hollywood projected at 1.66 (Interview With the Vampire, Robobcop, Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves). I made the assumption (perhaps incorrect) films were shot for 1.66 because this is how they would be shown in Europe.

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Michael Coate
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quote:
Spielberg has been published stating that the film was shot for the 1.66 ratio!
Are you referring to the 1990 interview with film critic Gene Siskel? If so, I think that was a case of someone being in a situation where they were expected to recall information on the spot, which I think is one reason interviews often contain questionable information. Having been on both ends of the interview process, I know that it is unreasonable to expect people to recall on the spot exact details of past experiences.

I'm not claiming Spielberg is wrong or misremembering. Maybe he's screened the film for himself numerous times in different ratios and prefers 1.66:1. Maybe the Amblin screening room was only set up for 1.66:1 (for spherical presentations). Maybe he's confusing 1.66:1 with 1.85:1 (after all, they really are not all that different from one another). Who knows. Anyway, my point, I guess, is that according to the film's DP, Allen Daviau, "E.T." was shot with a 1.66:1 hardmatte but composed for 1.85:1. (Daviau shot two and 1/4 other films for Spielberg using the same technique.)

I think Thomas Hauerslev has some frames from a 70mm print; maybe he'll post them or provide us with a linky. Then, if you wish, you could scrutinize the image, even measuring it if you feel it necessary, and drawing your own conclusion as to what the film's ratio is or should be. But keep in mind that I don't think the labs ever really had a standard for blowing up spherically-shot films, so the ratios are all over the place. Even the numerous video versions of "E.T." that have featured a letterbox presentation have each had a slightly different ratio, falling somehwere between 1.66:1 and 1.85:1.

In the end, I think as long as the ratio is close to what it's supposed to be, things will be fine.

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Michael Coate
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Ron Keillor... Please look over your recent post. What and whom are you quoting???

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Bruce McGee
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I saw it in 70 and mag sound at the fabulous Columbia Theatre in Atlanta, GA in '82 along with a full house. The image was razor sharp.

Anybody else ever go there?

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Jerry Axelsson
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I like your comments about "E.T.".
Thanks to those which have responded.

Does someone know for certain if new 35mm OR 70mm prints where done for the 1985 re-issue or for other matters before the 20th aniv. re-issue?

Keep up the good work guys!

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Blaine Young
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There were no 70mm prints for the 20th Anniversary re-issue.

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