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Mike Blakesley
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quote: Richard Fowler
application of his facial hairs on top of heat sink assemblies does not show improved heat management of the typical heatsink
However, he may have singed some of the hairs off the TOP of his head from the radiant heat of the bulb! [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Geez guys, I have more hair on my legs and chest that I do on my head [uhoh] .

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Andres Briano
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quote: Steve Guttag
I do not dislike Christie or blindly swear by Kinoton for they certainly have their shortcomings too. But at the end of the day, if you want the best picture and sound...Kinoton is going to get you that, at the end of the day.
That kind of response was what I meant when I said that "...no objective tech can fall (blindly) in love with a brand."

Now getting back on topic, today I realized that the spare kit that comes with the AW3, comes with 2 rollers, but none of them come with the Shaft Assy (Part # 196213-001)!! [Eek!] Only the swivel bracket and the roller itself have survived!!

That is not a "non-issue". I remain waiting for the usual suspects to jump out of their seats to justify the decision to cut those out.

Until then...

Andrés

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Richard Fowler
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It is like the cereal box that has become thinner to save costs and hope you do not notice. [Smile] I remember years ago when removeable platter brains became available.....a short while later you had two units sold to a system instead of three....with no price reduction.

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Chris Slycord
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Similar to the cough syrup manufacturer who was asked by a national news group (ABC, NBC, or CBS; can't remember which) about how the cost of their product rose one year. The conversation more or less went like this:

News Correspondent: Your product costs consumers twice what it used to.
Spokesperson: The price is exactly the same and in the same size bottle in before.
Correspondent: But it has half the active ingredient as before and the recommended dose doubled; effectively you have to buy 2 bottles to get the effect of your old bottle.
Spokesperson: The price is the same; we didn't raise it.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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quote: Andres Briano
That is not a "non-issue". I remain waiting for the usual suspects to jump out of their seats to justify the decision to cut those out.

Andres,
We are lucky to get any spares from anyone gratis any more. You can blame that on inflation... not someone at any given projector factory not wanting to give you basic spare parts. If you think that spare AW parts reduction is a problem you should deal with the seating industry some time... they are an absolute joke at best. You are supposed to get around 5 to 7% spare seat parts on any order but you're lucky to get one seat bottom or an end standard these days. With American projector manufacturers its best to plan ahead and order any spares you want to have on hand at the same time you place your order for the equipment... I realize there are many reasons to do this when doing a new equipment purchase. The final price you pay for said piece of equipment will then also be based on the quantity of spares you order along with it... but getting it all into the country would be much easier than ordering parts after the fact. We have shipped parts AND equipment to many South American locations over the years and have had no real problems doing so except that duties and taxes can be ludicrous at the receiving end for spares, sometimes tripling the costs. But then you SHOULD be blaming that on your govenments!

Mark

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Steve Guttag
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As I recall, Christie does have an AW3 spare parts kit for sale that has quite a bit of stuff in it...including things like motors. I've always admired that sort of thing. In fact, I have created spare parts kits for other things myself (in our inventory program so it is sold as a line item and all the proper parts are picked). You know, its the little things like the spare framing lamps or the next set of belts or whatever.

Now if you want an oddity...Kinoton in their little projector spares for each and every projector includes a spare set of runner strips (1 pair) but never any skates! For those not in the know, Kinoton's skates/runner strips make up what most would call the gate and trap (gate = skate, in this case) and they are normally made of delrin. As such, they are a wear item. So anywho...the runner strips, which they include, have dual lives...like the old Century-C trap runners...after they wear, you transpose them and then wear the other half. The skates, on the other hand, only have one life...but you don't any spares of those!

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Andres Briano
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Seeing how everyone is in a good mood (TGIF) and we have this sort of truce going on, I will volunteer one of the things that Christie has not cut back (and that surprises me).

KEYS TO THE LAMPHOUSE DOORS

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This is a picture of how many spare keys I have left after putting one in every lock of a 5-plex!! [Eek!]

INSANE, dude!

Andrés

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Thats because Christie IS the KEY PLAYER in the industry today! If you think thats insane you should see how many keys there are to the Christie factory [Eek!] .

Mark

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Andres Briano
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Good one, Mark! [Big Grin]

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Andres Briano
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It´s been a while. Right now I´m back in Brazil on install 2 of 4 of 2008. Continuing with this topic that has brought grief to sooo many, here I want to share something funny with you guys: a typo.

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Tristan Lane
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Ha! I love typos on product packaging and the products themselves.

At one new install I was working on, I noticed in the men's restroom that the fold down baby changing table said "Baby Channing Station" It was printed on the branded label for the unit. I wondered to myself how many other consumers received one that said this.

The Women's baby "Channing" station was spelled correctly though.

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Charles Greenlee
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Hmm, I know a few people that wished they could change their babies, my parents being a couple. Eh, well, those changing tables don't change anything. The baby's just as annoying as it was before you brought him/her to the table. Oh well, there's always ebay. (Hmm, suprised someone hasn't tried that already. It'll be a sad day when someone does try to sell their baby on ebay.)

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