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Author Topic: What's up with prints from India?? Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 07-20-2008 01:48 AM                     Every Bollywood I've built-up myself was in both DTS and Dolby Digital... and I think only a couple came without the disk. But try finding a Bollywood in SDDS. AFAIK, they don't exist.  |  IP: Logged Charles Greenlee Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 801 From: Savannah, Ga, U.S. Registered: Jun 2006 posted 07-21-2008 11:28 PM                        The one I showed at the Wynnsong here in Savannah had SDDS, but neither of the other 2 digital formats. SDDS and analog only. It was a private group of indians that rented No 6, our largest screen, out. They filled it, and concession sales were through the roof. I'm not sure the exact capacity of 6, but I do know it's large enough to require a 6k bulb. I was sad because that projector had BOTH DTS and SR-D readers, but not SDDS. No matter. After a run through our film cleaner, because the film was so nasty, it sounded great, even in analog. Got tipped too. I don't normally get those. I don't even expect them.  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 07-22-2008 12:30 AM                     Weird. I was pretty much under the impression that SDDS was something unknown in India. That said, if I was making a movie and wanted so save a few bucks (while guaranteeing the vast majority of theaters could get my 5.1 mix) I'd skip on SDDS too.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 07-22-2008 02:42 AM                        Has anyone ever seen a flat movie from India?  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 07-22-2008 09:19 AM                     In one word Yes In the early 80's when I worked at a Bollywood Theatre half the titles were flat Also at that time they were making 70mm prints of some titles  |  IP: Logged Bill Gabel Film God Posts: 3873 From: Technicolor / Postworks NY, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 07-22-2008 09:57 AM                     I had a Flat print come in about a month ago.  |  IP: Logged Andy Frodsham Expert Film Handler Posts: 238 From: Stoke on Trent, Staffs, UK Registered: Nov 2006 posted 07-22-2008 10:05 AM                     Yes, Michael, we do constantly fight (sadly, in vain) with the framing knob when screening these films. We do not, however, have any problems with other scope prints (American or otherwise) although I do believe our scope aperure plates have been cut a little too liberally! We are in the process of getting new scope plates cut (together with slightly 'narrower' widescreen ones)!  |  IP: Logged Bill Enos Film God Posts: 2081 From: Richmond, Virginia, USA Registered: Apr 2000 posted 07-22-2008 11:47 AM                     In playing a couple of India films a month for the past 4 years, we've played one that was flat and one that was 1.33, the rest have been scope. Sound formats have been sometimes unusual, gotten several lately that had DTS and mono analog, one that had SDDS and mono, and a lot of analog only, most have SRD and SR but neither SDDS nor DTS. I'm told that pirated DVDs are on the street in India with a day of the theatrical opening of all films and that both camcordered and pristine copies abound and are dirt cheap. Official DVDs are released almost immediately too. Indian audiences are demanding and the sound has to be VERY LOUD, much louder than would be tolerated by any American audience.  |  IP: Logged Andy Frodsham Expert Film Handler Posts: 238 From: Stoke on Trent, Staffs, UK Registered: Nov 2006 posted 07-22-2008 12:05 PM                     As Bill said, the soundtracks seem to be recorded loud to start with, but, yes, they do like em played loud! I know, now, that the level isn't quite right until I can feel the booth floor vibrating! The films themselves do use sound really creatively, almost like the old cartoons, where every significant gesture is punctuated with a musical sting. If nothing else, they really test how well your sound system is performing!  |  IP: Logged Richard Fowler Film God Posts: 2392 From: Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA Registered: Jun 2001 posted 07-22-2008 01:42 PM                     Having a digital stereo track and a mono optical track is not unusual in Indian product. One processor manufacturer a few years ago modified their output circuits as not to distort when reproducing at the high volume they prefer.  |  IP: Logged Bill Enos Film God Posts: 2081 From: Richmond, Virginia, USA Registered: Apr 2000 posted 07-22-2008 07:28 PM                     The people making these films in mono should know that it really pisses off the audience. Indian audiences are among the most discerning out there, they really know what to expect and are upset when they don't get it. They two guys who bring these fims in are pissed with us when the film is mono and think we are BSing them when we tell them we can't make it stereo. Does it cost significantly more to produce a stereo track?  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 07-22-2008 08:25 PM                        Physically show them that the track is in mono. Also ask them why you would have reason to BS them about this.  |  IP: Logged Michael Brown Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1522 From: Bradford, England Registered: May 2001 posted 07-22-2008 09:36 PM                     quote: Andy Frodsham As Bill said, the soundtracks seem to be recorded loud to start with, but, yes, they do like em played loud! I know, now, that the level isn't quite right until I can feel the booth floor vibrating. We were showing the bollywood 'Woodstock Villa' last month. We had the fader turned down to 3.7 (in a house where the hollywood/english films play at about 5.6) And it was still sounding very loud.  |  IP: Logged Charles Greenlee Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 801 From: Savannah, Ga, U.S. Registered: Jun 2006 posted 07-23-2008 03:56 AM                        Just put the processor in Gen. Isn't tat supposed to simulate surround sound from a Mono track or something. I don't understand how one can generate 4 output signals from 1 input signal, but that's about all I got. We never had to use the Gen. Never really got a mono film.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 07-23-2008 11:11 AM                        What are you talking about? Do you use SMART processors or something? What is this "Gen"?  |  IP: Logged

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