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Mark Gulbrandsen
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quote: Tony Bandiera Jr
Bullshit!! If the guy can't get his cheap-ass owner to drop that Chinese crap he's stuck with, how do you think he's gonna persuade him to pony up the mega bucks for digital?

Actually not bullshit... none of the digital booths I've installed over the last two years has ever missed a single show. Besides... even as charming as film stuff really is, film and the associated equipment to run it is now obsolete... like it or not.

All of the plex's we have comming up in the first half of this year... close to 40 screens... are all installing digital. None of the folks building these sites even wanted film equipment quotes. We did however convince one to install one film projector becauase of the complex's size [Smile] .

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Rick Raskin
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Am I missing something here?

The guy has a rectifier problem causing his lamp to be inoperable.
WTF does digital have anything to do with that?

Last I recall both digital and film use lamps and lamps require rectifiers.

(How about rectumfryers for you spell freaks).

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Tim Reed
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quote: Marky
You'd have less operational breakdowns if you converted to digital!!
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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Rick,

While we are in "Intermission" mode awaiting knowledge of what type of rectumfryer it actually is discussion of other topics seems like a good idea [thumbsup] .

I donno Tim... You look more like the Troll than I [Big Grin] .

Mark

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Richard Hamilton
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Andrew,
I don't remember what kind of rectifier is in your console. I don't remember any issues with the ones I installed, they just worked. Are you still down, or have you resolved it?

As far as anyone badmouthing these "Chinese Crap" projectors, if you haven't seen them or worked with them, that's bullshit. The image is rock steady with more than enough light. The only real issue was the platter timing, which the factory sent technicians to the States to fix. When I worked for Ballantyne, all I did was travel around fixing Apogees in fairly new installs, more problems than these Horizons have had.

The Horizon projector was marketed for new installs as a cheap projector for owners who were waiting on the "digital" market to make up it's mind which way it was going, instead of buying something that was going to be obsolete a year later.

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Andrew Bangs
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Tony,
Sorry if I mislead you about how I feel at this Job. I am actually looking into another carrer. My own business as a matter of fact. Custom Wood Work This is just to pay the bills in the mean time.

I enjoy the challenge sometimes of these problems as I do learn from them and as I have actually said before these Projectors are actually pretty good from what I know. ( I have only worked with these and some old Strongs plus some other old Frankenstein stuff. The only issues I have really had were with the platters and the sound heads and I suspect allot of these problems are due to the klutz that was working here before me and not due to poor quality equipment. When I looked in on the lamp I did notice the braided cable that attaches to the lead at the back of the lamp had melted to something in the past and was not replaced when it was an issue. Again the Klutz. In a perfect world if something is not working right I agree chuck it and get something that works but frankly we aren't in a perfect world and when working for a small family chain in relatively small towns we do what we can with what we got. Frankly we are loosing a bit because of the down screen but it was only bringing in about three to five people per show. Now with a new movie in there I don't know what it will do but I suspect that it won't be that big either.

Rick,
I do believe the owner said he had a new rectifier on it's way in. As soon as it gets here I will post it.

Sorry for the delay on the info but with having to put together four new movies today and move all my prints plus taking down three I honestly forgot to get that info. I will try to get it tomorrow and put it up around noon my time.

Thanks for all the help and willingness. It really does help to have a resource like this.

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Rick Raskin
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Found this info on diodes:

Diode Stuff

Explains it pretty well with not to much techno-babble.

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Andrew Bangs
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Here are some photos of the rectifier. Tell me what you think.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Is it UL listed?

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Andrew Bangs
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Don't Know.

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James Westbrook
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I am not used to seeing circuit cards in a rectifier. I recognize the contactors, but that's it.
Is the voltage increased and decreased with the knobs? [Confused]

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Andrew Bangs
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They are not knobs but Wire Terminals

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Richard Hamilton
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Mark,
I believe it is UL listed. I don't remember (I've slept since then), but I believe those projectors were in the initial shipment that were delivered during the UL certification. Don't quote me on that though [Roll Eyes]

Andrew,
The first picture looks like your spare rectifryer, then the others are pics of one inside a console. Was the top cover already taken off of the one in the console, or did you do that for the pics?

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Andrew Bangs
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Patrick took off the top after it broke down to see if he could figure it out. I think they are trying to ship down the Rectifier from the unit in Beeville. The spare was used a while ago (I guess) as it was not working to my knowledge. I think he was hoping to swap out parts but could not figure it out. At least that is what I think from what I have been told. Patrick pretty much took this over after I threw up my hands saying it was all VooDoo to me.

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Louis Bornwasser
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Looks to me like it's time for a rectifier module to be swapped out. (I try to stay with rectifiers that I can easily repair.) Louis

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