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Mike Schindler
Phenomenal Film Handler

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 - posted 12-13-2009 10:21 AM      Profile for Mike Schindler   Email Mike Schindler   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Mark J. Marshall
So, what is the IMAX 3D film aspect ratio going to be? Anyone know? We never seem to put the IMAX format info in the FITA forum for some reason.
I'm pretty sure it's 1.78 or thereabouts.

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Mike Croaro
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 - posted 12-13-2009 01:11 PM      Profile for Mike Croaro   Email Mike Croaro   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Top making is a must in those old single screen theatres that were twinned to create two long and narrow auditoriums.

Example: Belmont Theatre, Belmont, CA

Aud #1 & 2 90 long X 28 feet wide.

Scope image = 25 X 11
Flat image = 25 X 13.5

In this example, the scope image is so small raising the top masking to create the flat image is the only realistic option.

Mike

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Chris Slycord
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quote: Chris Slycord
I don't understand why poorly designed auditoriums make top masking good.

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Matt Skilton
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 - posted 12-13-2009 04:34 PM      Profile for Matt Skilton   Author's Homepage   Email Matt Skilton   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
We got some paperwork through the other day and all it said was that the digital 3D copy will be scope. Guess we'll find out what's what on Wednesday, probably 10 minutes before its first show [Wink]

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Brian Guckian
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Your problems are only beginning with this movie!

What about the holographic version?

Whereby the concept of an aspect ratio itself will be rendered completely redundant!

(Cue maniacal laughter)

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Bill Enos
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 - posted 12-13-2009 07:01 PM      Profile for Bill Enos   Email Bill Enos   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
90 feet long and 28 feet wide isn't an auditorium, it's a hallway.

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John Wilson
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 - posted 12-14-2009 03:56 AM      Profile for John Wilson   Email John Wilson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Sam King
2D is SCOPE, any version of 3D (be in IMAX or digital) is FLAT. The End. Not all too confusing
Apparently, it is for you. Why on earth would you post such an inaccurate statement as fact? [Roll Eyes]

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Frank Angel
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 - posted 12-14-2009 06:50 AM      Profile for Frank Angel   Author's Homepage   Email Frank Angel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Bill Enos
90 feet long and 28 feet wide isn't an auditorium, it's a hallway.

Not to worry, we've got a neighborhood theatre out here in Brooklyn that used to be a really nice sized single screen, about 700 seats in it's day -- nicely appointed....not a movie "palace" by any means, but as was done in those days, it had its own individual style, interesting and comfortable.

Then they turned it into a 3 plex, after a few months, it was a 5 plex, then shortly after that it was tortured into a 7-plex. So whereas you find theatres that are just hallways, this place has rooms that are no more than closets, or maybe they are using the restrooms as theatres also -- you know, hanging LCD screens on the stall doors. They can call them "digital" to boot!

And talking about digital, this one particular place decided that muliplexing that poor single screen like so many horny rabbits wasn't enough to survive, so they pulled out all the film projectors and replaced them with digital. How a digital projector can fix all the horrible twisted boxes in this place that they call "theatres" is the real question.

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Brad Miller
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 - posted 12-14-2009 10:41 AM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Because digital is perfect, duh! [Razz]

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Sean Weitzel
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From: Vacaville, CA (1790 miles west of Rockwall)
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Frank, your description of that theater made me think of the end of the movie "Bachelor Party"
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Joe Redifer
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 - posted 12-14-2009 02:33 PM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
LOL! I think they should have gone for 56 to make the joke a little better, but that's still great. I love how it is in a strip mall.

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John Wilson
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Well, in 1984 36 was today's 56.

You have to adjust for inflation. [Wink]

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Joe Redifer
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Oh I thought it was a recent movie.

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Mark Strube
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 - posted 12-14-2009 03:35 PM      Profile for Mark Strube   Author's Homepage   Email Mark Strube   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
We received our hard drive of Avatar 3D today... it's scope (and only scope) and ghost busted (since we have RealD). Looks like it's mostly up to the film booker to make sure you get the right version? Our 3D house is common height, so scope was the best choice.

(All of our screens are common height, for that matter... which makes me happy.)

By the way, does anyone know where the term "common height/width" comes from? Wouldn't the word "constant" make a lot more sense?

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Sean McKinnon
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 - posted 12-14-2009 03:42 PM      Profile for Sean McKinnon   Author's Homepage   Email Sean McKinnon   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well... The height ot width is the "common" factor in each format.

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