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Joshua Waaland
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 - posted 03-15-2010 09:56 PM      Profile for Joshua Waaland   Email Joshua Waaland   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I wouldn't buy anything that Carmike used to have since many of their theaters are former Cinema World locations. Cinema World nor Carmike were very well known for their stellar maintenance programs.

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Louis Bornwasser
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Joshua: Understatement of the decade. Louis

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Jake Spell
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Well, Carmike's booths all had a posters telling the "projectionists" that the Framing knob has a stop point, and that forcing the knob will cause considerable damage.

Really says a lot about the people they hire...

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Ken Lackner
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quote: Joshua Waaland
many of their theaters are former Cinema World locations.
I has a confused. I worked for a small, new company called Cinema World in Florida many years ago. Surely this must not be the same Cinema Word you speak of. But how can you have two companies with the same name? (Actually, I do believe it was Cinemaworld, but I still don't see how that could be.)

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Louis Bornwasser
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Trust me. . . the one based in Pittsburgh was known around the world. Louis

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Martin McCaffery
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quote: Jake Spell
Really says a lot about the people they hire...
Really says a lot about how they (don't) train them.

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Jake Spell
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I can agree about that from my former employment, my bosses cared and trained me well, but it was obvious that the corporate big wigs couldn't care less

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Jermery Adkisson
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I used to be a projection manager at a carmike and it is my understanding that carmike may have leased the christies they now have in use. So none of the equipment I had was sold or moved out but if carmike drops the lease, good luck getting the 35's running again.

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Scott D. Neff
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Likely also is that it's part of many of their leases to leave the theatre equipped with projection equipment. Lease probabably doesn't specify "operating" projection equipment or any that "is capable of presenting a quality image". I'm sure a lot of landlords have stuff like that built in after years of departing competitors slashing screens and seats, cracking lenses, sledgehammering toilets or otherwise just stealing the fixtures.

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Sean McKinnon
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quote: Ken Lackner
I has a confused. I worked for a small, new company called Cinema World in Florida many years ago. Surely this must not be the same Cinema Word you speak of. But how can you have two companies with the same name?
There are a couple of cinema world theaters in western massachusetts that I beleive are independant unto themselves.

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Jonathan Smith
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Read more closely. . . That's a FORMER Carmike theatre that is putting 35mm back in. IATSE Local #160 had to send help to the Pbgh. area to do the 35mm re-install [beer]

Carmike is committed to digital, and I hope that their customers leave in droves so they can appreciate the quality that 35mm projection is capable of.

Then again, from what I hear, Carmike had atrocious presentation on film.

I'm going to enjoy watching all of these 2K installations loose their shirts, tear their hair out, wear sack cloth and qashes when their equipment is obsoleted by 4K equipment in the not-so-distant future.

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Frank Angel
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The exhibitors who are not concerned about presentation quality when they are running film, putting in digital doesn't change that shit mindset. Presentation will suck just the same with digital....maybe not at first since all the equipment will be brand new, but give it a few years, if even that long, not to mention as Jonathan says, the built-in 2K obsolensence factor.

What kills me is, how is it that with all 4K already available, anyone is still buying 2K projectors? I mean, it's not like 4K is some secret under developement that no one sees coming round the bend. There is no question that the quality is going to quadruple with 4K and that would be one helluva selling point. All I know is, if I bought a 4K unit, I would be using that fact to beat up all my competitors who only had 2K. And believe me, it matters not if in reality I am getting the same film that has a 2K intermediate as he is, all the public needs to be told is that I've got 4K to my competition's only got 2K; it's simple, it's numbers and they will understand it, even if they don't have a clue what it means. That kind of hype is gold and it will sell tickets.

My slogan? Easy: "2K is to 35mm as 4K is to 70mm!" Or, "2K is to AM as 4K is to FM!" And you could go on and on.

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Darryl Spicer
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2k 4k the average Joe public is not going to know the difference or even care. I wouldn't even invest any money in advertising it. When we first got our digital projector we used to put something in our advertising about it for 2D presentations. We would get phone calls with people asking what's the difference. Ticket sales really didn't increase over the 35mm. 3-D is a different matter but 2-D really didn't show any gain so we just quit making any reference to digital for 2-D.

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Bobby Henderson
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The biggest problem with 4K projection systems and being able to do any advertising touting the capability is lack of native 4K movie content.

2K digital intermediate is still the overwhelming de-facto standard for Hollywood studio post production. 4K doesn't mean squat if you're feeding it a movie whose DI, CGI and compositing was all rendered in mere 2K. It's like tits on a bull, pointless.

This is also why I really don't care much about 35mm or HDTV video camera blow-ups on IMAX. I'll care if the footage is native 15/65. I won't if its some pretentious bullshit imagery trying to sell itself as something it is not -kind of like what IMAX Digital does.

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Mike Blakesley
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quote: Bobby Henderson
lack of native 4K movie content
I got a trailer for the new Shrek here that says "4K" in the leaders. Does that mean it was produced for 4K digital or is it unrelated?

If they are producing trailers that way, it shouldn't be long until most movies are 4K too, I'd think.

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