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Author Topic: Did Carmike keep their projectors? John Hawkinson Film God Posts: 2273 From: Cambridge, MA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 03-19-2010 07:56 PM                     I doubt that, actually. Trailers are short. 4k rendering time is expensive. It's one thing to spend 2x the cost on 2.5 minutes and another thing to do it on 120 minutes. It's easy to experiment on trailers. And, believeitornot, some people might actually care more about the trailer than the actual movie... --jhawk  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 03-19-2010 10:21 PM                     The new Shrek sequel could be an exception. However, a note saying "4K" in the leaders may not necessarily mean the movie was natively rendered in 4K. It may have only been merely blown up to 4K and available to play in faked out 4K format on some D-cinema servers. It's just like the 70mm print thing. Just because a movie has a 70mm print doesn't mean the movie was actually shot in 70mm. The issue still remains the vast majority of movies are still using 2K quality digital intermediates, CGI and compositing in the post production stage. At best, 4K is only getting occasional use and it is even more rare for a movie to be fully 4K on every digital element in the post production chain. The increasing use of digital cameras to capture effective HDTV resolution compounds this further. Sure, the Red camera can capture 4K. But it is more often used at 2K or 1080p levels. Panavision Genesis is almost always 1080p and almost always shouts out the video look. Much of 2012 looked like video footage. Basically, too many people think the "digital" buzzword alone is still good enough. Unfortunately those folks are too stupid to realize the only people who give a damn about that sort of thing (such as people like me) are smarter than that and more into concepts like "native resolution" and 2K/4K, etc. The average Joe-six pack types think the movie screen in the theater works just like their TV at home regardless of whether the projector is showing film or video. They don't care.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 03-20-2010 07:57 AM                     If you want to buy 4K right now, Frank, that means the Sony SXRD system. While it has the 4K pixel count, it still doesn't have the look of DLPs when it comes to color, contrast and light uniformity. You also only have Real-D as your 3D "choice." The current Series 2 projectors can be upgraded to 4K, once TI issues the chips (presuming they do). So...buying a DLP 2K projector now does not shut one out of 4K later. Also, as I've told my customers...since you are only buying 1 or 2 for 3D, at the moment...when 4K does arrive, you can always put the new projector in your big theatre and slide these projectors down to one of the smaller theatres and keep the latest/greatest in the big theatre. Steve  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 03-20-2010 09:17 AM                        No one (of the public) cares HOW the picture gets "up there." They care only that a threshold level of quality is reached. Historically this level is quite low. Louis  |  IP: Logged Paavo Mardi Film Handler Posts: 27 From: Tartu / Estonia Registered: Sep 2008 posted 03-21-2010 05:55 AM                     Do not buy old Carmike projectors. I have seen many old raped projectors. Ex-Carmike machines beats them all.  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 03-21-2010 07:37 AM                        I told you that they are known 'round the world! Louis  |  IP: Logged Robert Carnino Film Handler Posts: 16 From: Hermitage, Pa/United States Registered: Feb 2010 posted 03-23-2010 07:24 PM                     I was a manager for Cinema World Inc. based out for Pittsburgh for many year. They were a great company and we took care of our equipment. When Carmike bought us many managers left, including myself. When the new managers came in they didn't know what they were doing thats when the equipment went bad and they stored it very badly when they converted to digital. So you can't blame Cinema World Inc.  |  IP: Logged Martin McCaffery Film God Posts: 2481 From: Montgomery, AL Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-24-2010 10:22 AM                        I just posted at the Hey You Suck thread. Apparently Carmike does keep at least one operable projector at their Montgomery theatre. Too bad they don't know how to operate it. They showed an open captioned movie for the hearing impaired which had the scope lens for a flat film and the whole thing was out of frame. Stay classy, Carmike.  |  IP: Logged Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 03-24-2010 11:19 AM                        And not a single theatre personnel checked that theatre in the whole two hours the film was running, not even to stick a head in there and look at the screen and listen to the sound, not even for 10 seconds. Way to go. Anyone believe sticking a $90,000 digital projector in this joke of a cinema is going to improve this kind of super-suck operation one scintilla?  |  IP: Logged Martin McCaffery Film God Posts: 2481 From: Montgomery, AL Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-24-2010 03:30 PM                        And it was the second show of the day. I'm tempted to go out there just to see if it is still wrong today. Tempted, but not that much.  |  IP: Logged

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