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Will Kutler
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Tucson, AZ, USA
Registered: Feb 2001


 - posted 08-21-2014 01:34 AM      Profile for Will Kutler   Email Will Kutler   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Mark Gulbrandsen....

I e-mailed and p.m.ed you regarding your E-7 and have not heard back....still waiting for pictures. Please do not trash it this weekend!

Cheers

Will Kutler

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Rick Raskin
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Manassas Virginia
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I agree, that picture really doesn't have anything to do with the topic on hand and as such doesn't belong here.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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From: Music City
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Email heading your way Will... I thought I had sent it...

Mark

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Will Kutler
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Hi Mark

Thanks! I just replied to your message...let me know if you got it!

K

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Yep!

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Will Kutler
Phenomenal Film Handler

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Has anyone ever seen or know of special E-7 modifications made for special venues or purposes...possibly done by Wolk. I was recently told about a 4 inch lens conversion completed by either Simplex or Wolk.

Mark...I sent you a new message regarding your E-7. I need your contact info so I can make shipping arrangements.

Cheers

Kutler

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Dick Prather
Master Film Handler

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Will, I have seen 4" conversions on E-7's but do not remember who made them. Could have been Wolk or Wenzel.

Alse General Electric used the E-7 in early TV stations. One of the Cameron's books shows this in detail. I have also seen one of the special Power's like intermittent made for the TV version. Mark and I found it at Abbot Theatre Supply in Chicago with "WGN spare" on the box. Dick

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Seems to me the Powers had a 5 to 1 ratio as it was originally designed.

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Gordon McLeod
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I saw a powers being used as a telecine with a ballanyne 6 soundhead in montreal back in the 70's
I gather the best telecine projector was the Machau

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Hard to say about the Mechau being the best. It had an awful lot of mirrors to have to keep clean. Any dirt in the optical path anywhere and you'd be likely to see it much as you do in the reflex system of a film camera. The Europeans used continuous flying spot scanners for film from day one, as did the Australians. Flying spot also has much better dynamic range than the typical vidicon based telecine cameras did. They also had no lag. TK-27 and TK-28 telecne cameras actually performed. When I worked in broadcast tv in the late 70's early 80's I was amazed at how poorly the TK-27 and TK-28's actually performed. Lots of lag and loads of noise in the blue channel. Granted the blue channel only accounts for like 13% of the color bandwidth in NTSC. The TK-27 performed slightly better as it was a 4 tube camera and had a 1.5" luminance channel vidicon and three 1" vidicons for color. You switched the camera into monochrome mode and it looked really good off the larger tube.

Mark

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Will Kutler
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Mark G.

Please send me your address and phone number so I can make E-7 shipping arrangements.

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Robert John Hodge
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From: Syracuse , N.Y.
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About the E7 being used in a General Electric television film chain.

GE developed a system called a "Syncrolight" that eliminated the need for a shutter in a 16 mm Bell and Howell head and a Kodak head. It used a flash tube triggered by a thyratron tube.
Syracuse University used to have a Bell and Howell/ General Electric Syncrolight machine in the old monochrome Carnegie Library TV studio. I still have some of the paperwork and tubes from the machine. The "lamp house" was separate from the projector mechanism, so mounting a different head would have been possible. The base resembled a light duty Simplex base if I remember correctly.

Any idea if that method found it's way into 35?

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Alastair Bowlie-Evans
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From: South Wales, Swansea
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That 'syncholight' was (possibly) a rip-off of the FP-20-S Philips Pulse-Lamp system, where a tiny 800W High-Pressure water-cooled mercury vapour lamp was driven by a 'rectifier' running 6 large thyratron valves synchronised to the int-movement by a taco-generator made out of a magnetic tape-head.....

The rectifier also contained much other electronics--all Tube/Valves, chokes transformers, caps etc, to amplify/process the pulses from the taco-generator--And also contained-- 4 car type Spark-Plugs!

Int flywheel had three cut-outs, so the lamp was fired three times per frame giving a flicker-free image--like a three blade shutter would.
--This system was available from Philips in the Late 50's and early 60's.
A local cinema here used a pair of FP-20-S, the Pulse-lamp machines until the mid 70's....

The FP-20 had no shutter, just the (pair) of lamps in a movable turret assembly, water-cooled, the water forming the 'earth' return path for the power to the lamp....

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Sam D. Chavez
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Those pulse light units were interesting but the light was awful and blue. We had a couple here in the bay area but they were converted back to shutter blades in fairly short order.

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Jim Cassedy
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quote: Alastair Bowlie-Evans
That 'syncholight' was (possibly) a rip-off of the FP-20-S Philips Pulse-Lamp system, where a tiny 800W High-Pressure water-cooled mercury vapour lamp was driven by a 'rectifier' running 6 large thyratron valves synchronised to the int-movement by a taco-generator made out of a magnetic tape-head
Looking through very old SME and other cinema-related technical journals, I've
noticed that there seemed to be a fascination, almost bordering on
obsession, with inventing a "continiuous motion" projector, which seemed
to peak in the period between appx 1919-1939. The quest was fueled by
the somewhat accurate belief that it was the film trap & intermittent
movement that caused the most wear and damage on film prints.

There are dozens of articles detailing numerous designs that were proposed
and/or actually built & tried, using various combinations of either stobe
lamps or moving mirrors or lenses to achieve the end result.

None of them were really practical. Machines using moving mirrors or
lenses were mechanically complex and difficult to keep optically aligned.

In addition, all the extra optics reduced light through-put substantially
(remember, this was in the days before coated optics) and also introduced
optical distortion to the image which was quite noticeable on all but the
smallest of screens.

Stroboscopic lamps of the time were just not capable of putting out
enough light for anything larger than a small screening room size screen,
and the electronics of that period were large, expensive, and not
reliable enough for theatrical use. (Movies were 'big business' back then)

Stroboscopic lamps for television projectors, on the other hand, seemed to be
somewhat more practical, since they don't have to project onto a large screen.

In fact, a patent search I did turned up a number of patents for stroboscopic
television-film projectors designed by RCA and television pioneer Alan Dumont
going as far back as the mid 1930's.

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