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Author Topic: bought old theatre with all projection equipment SALE? Dave Macaulay Film God Posts: 2321 From: Toronto, Canada Registered: Apr 2001 posted 12-27-2014 09:04 PM                     There may be a minimum post count before you can add images. I doubt it's actually illegal to use carbon arc lamps, but finding a supplier of new carbons might be a trick. Running really old film you might find could be illegal and quite dangerous, antique film may be on a "nitrate" base (nitrocellulose, AKA gun cotton) - the guillotine steel port shutters and self closing fire doors you probably see in the old booth are to protect patrons from burning/exploding film (the projectionist was not so "protected"). If a piece or roll of film you come across in there doesn't say "SAFETY FILM" along an edge be very careful with it... I have found a few nitrate cartoons and such tucked away in really old theatres. Sad reality: the value of most of this equipment hovers around zero: it may cost you more to get it carried out than a scrapyard will pay for the metal. Tube amplifiers and really old speakers are coveted by a few collectors, so if you have those you might get lucky. Certain brands of certain vacuum tubes, if you have a stock of spares, command quite surprising prices: don't sell any NOS tubes without checking their worth.  |  IP: Logged Kevin Boyle Film Handler Posts: 11 From: Monroe, Utah, USA Registered: Oct 2014 posted 12-27-2014 09:26 PM                     I will have my Secretary do it me monday. What are nos tubes? I have a lot of boxes of rods. Everything in the projection room is tube controlled. I actually had never done tube controlled stuff in my life. There are after you turn them on for a moment, tubes that glow blue in a box by the amps.I also have a cabinet that is full of all different type of tubes so I will look them up. Thank you.  |  IP: Logged Will Kutler Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1506 From: Tucson, AZ, USA Registered: Feb 2001 posted 12-27-2014 10:28 PM                     We had problems in Southern Arizona with local Govt bureaucrats claiming it is against EPA laws to run carbon arc indoors. HOGWASH. I asked them to provide the Fed Regulation. Of course they could do not!! If it was illegal to run carbons indoors...then any type of indoor welding would also be illegal. As previously stated, the main safety concern is in running nitrate, which should only be run in an appropriate environment with a qualified Projectionist...not the 17 yr old concession stand kid.  |  IP: Logged James Westbrook Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1133 From: Lubbock, Texas, Usa Registered: Mar 2006 posted 12-27-2014 11:18 PM                     quote: Kevin Boyle It closed with E.T. on the reel, so that says how long it's been. This almost confirms what was mentioned in Cinematour, that the building closed after a flood in the 1980s.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 12-27-2014 11:20 PM                     On posting pics: If the pict size is way over a pixel count.. quote: The filesize restriction on image uploads is 500K. Likewise the acceptable width for any uploaded picture is 800 pixels. ..then, one has to edit the picture down to fit the above resolution or filesize. When I do pictures, I have to edit the image down to meet the above requirements. -Monte  |  IP: Logged Sean Weitzel Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 619 From: Vacaville, CA (1790 miles west of Rockwall) Registered: Dec 1999 posted 12-28-2014 01:36 AM                     Kevin email me about the pictures you should be able to through this forum I will post them on your behalf. You need to click the email link above this post. Forum rules prohibit me posting my email address in the body of a post.  |  IP: Logged Rick Raskin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1100 From: Manassas Virginia Registered: Jan 2003 posted 12-28-2014 07:33 AM                     NOS means New Old Stock as in never used and still in the box. Usually the parts cabinet was stocked with lots of replacement tubes. Chiming in on nitrate, not only do you need a qualified projectionist (A MUST) but the machines need to be nitrate ready. That means fire trap rollers, reel magazines and doors on the picture and sound heads. Why dispose of the equipment if it is functional? Just leave it in place. You never know, you may want to do revival screenings down the road.  |  IP: Logged Kevin Boyle Film Handler Posts: 11 From: Monroe, Utah, USA Registered: Oct 2014 posted 12-28-2014 07:50 AM                     Sean I will be happy to email it all to you in a few hours if you can figure it out how. To get it on. I wish we could just run old movies all the time and focus on the older generation for a few years, that would be fun and we are looking into how much it is to actually run the older movies.  |  IP: Logged Will Kutler Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1506 From: Tucson, AZ, USA Registered: Feb 2001 posted 12-28-2014 10:12 AM                     E-7s are not machines intended for the untrained concession stand kid or floor manager to operate. They will tear them up in a heartbeat! There are just a few of us left who know how to properly operate, service and overhaul them. Replacement parts are becoming more rare every day. I would strongly urge you to preserve this equipment, especially if it was original to this theater.  |  IP: Logged Kevin Boyle Film Handler Posts: 11 From: Monroe, Utah, USA Registered: Oct 2014 posted 12-28-2014 06:31 PM                     To be honest I personally would love to bring it back to the old movies and show the community that grew up here in that THEATRE blasts from the past with it but it has taken me a little more than I had anticipated to restore it and I am so close but I need a little more to keep part of the dream alive for my wife and the future of my family so I am NEEDING to sell. I know, it sucks because just keeping this around for us and the community would be awesome.  |  IP: Logged Mitchell Dvoskin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1869 From: West Milford, NJ, USA Registered: Jan 2001 posted 12-28-2014 06:58 PM                     I'll second what others have said about running carbon arcs. There is no regulation anywhere in the USA prohibiting the use of carbon arc lamps. That said, it would probably be worth your while to put in a used pair of xenon bulb lamp houses if you actually plan on running movies. I'll also second what others have said, other than any tube amps and old Altec speakers, the rest of the equipment is worthless.  |  IP: Logged Will Kutler Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1506 From: Tucson, AZ, USA Registered: Feb 2001 posted 12-28-2014 09:15 PM                     Kevin Please investigate if this is a historic theater eligible for historic building registry. If so, then have it registered. Then apply for Gov't grants and community support. This may help make your dream come true. Cheers Will K.  |  IP: Logged Mitchell Dvoskin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1869 From: West Milford, NJ, USA Registered: Jan 2001 posted 12-31-2014 04:24 PM                     > Please investigate if this is a historic theater eligible for historic building registry. The downside to this is that once it is listed as a historic building, there are all sorts of hoops and expenses that the government requires to make any modifications and repairs, and being a historic building still does not guarantee any funding.  |  IP: Logged Stephan Shelley Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 854 From: castro valley, CA, usa Registered: Nov 2014 posted 01-01-2015 12:19 PM                     I would be surprised if it was illegal to run carbon arc lamps. Here in the San Francisco Bay Area which has some of the strictest air pollution laws we have two theatres that run 35mm with carbon arc on close to a daily basis. Another that runs a "classic" series on a monthly basis or so and a couple others that do when they run 35mm on the very rare occasion. One of the theatres that runs on a daily basis also uses E7s with RCA 1040 soundheads.  |  IP: Logged Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 01-01-2015 01:51 PM                        quote: Dave Macaulay the guillotine steel port shutters and self closing fire doors you probably see in the old booth are to protect patrons from burning/exploding film (the projectionist was not so "protected"). Ferocious nitrate fire breaks out in the booth, the port shutters and the fire doors slam shut sealing in the gun-powder-like flames off from and protecting the audience. The projectionist, however, he's sealed off in the booth, where, for his protection, he's got...well, a couple of buckets of sand. Result: a safe audience and in the booth, you've got Projectionist Flambé!  |  IP: Logged

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