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Author Topic: Roma David J Hilsgen Expert Film Handler Posts: 192 From: SAUK RAPIDS,MN . USA Registered: Aug 2004 posted 12-13-2018 02:41 AM                     Stephan, no my boss passed on it because of it opening on Netflix on the same day ,personally I think it would have did okay  |  IP: Logged Julian Antos Film Handler Posts: 76 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: Nov 2009 posted 12-13-2018 01:46 PM                     Music Box in Chicago is now confirmed for a 70mm "mini Run" from Jan 9-13 on 70mm. I'm told these were printed on 2383. Looking forward to running this!  |  IP: Logged Carl Martin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1424 From: Oakland, CA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 12-19-2018 08:29 PM                        castro theatre in sf has it in 70 jan 2-5.  |  IP: Logged Bill Hogan Film Handler Posts: 4 From: Burbank, CA USA Registered: May 2009 posted 12-20-2018 11:30 PM                     Here are the details for the NETFLIX distribution of the 70mm prints. https://variety.com/2018/film/news/netflix-alfonso-cuaron-roma-70-millimeter-release-1203094340/ The 70mm special presentations include: · Los Angeles: The Egyptian – January 10-11 · San Francisco: The Castro – January 2-5; Alamo Drafthouse – January 12-14 · Chicago: The Music Box – January 9 – 13 · New York: Alamo Drafthouse Brooklyn – January 11-17; · Hartford, CT: Cinestudio – January 23 – 26 · Austin: Alamo Drafthouse Ritz – December 26 – January 1 · Toronto: Bell TIFF Lightbox – currently showing through December 20  |  IP: Logged David J Hilsgen Expert Film Handler Posts: 192 From: SAUK RAPIDS,MN . USA Registered: Aug 2004 posted 12-22-2018 12:58 AM                     Got the confirmation today ,Emagine Willow Creek in Plymouth Minnesota has a play date of January 11th through the 17th on Roma in 70mm  |  IP: Logged Carl Martin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1424 From: Oakland, CA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 12-23-2018 04:10 AM                        also, unless it's a typo on the american cinematheque calendar, the aero in la has it in 70 jan 4.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-24-2018 03:09 PM                     The prints were struck from a 4K D.I.  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-25-2018 09:09 AM                     I saw it in Toronto and it looked stunning  |  IP: Logged Sascha F. Roll Expert Film Handler Posts: 140 From: Berlin, Berlin / Germany Registered: Sep 2015 posted 01-12-2019 04:02 PM                     So, are there more members of this forum that have seen ROMA in 70mm and maybe also 4k digital projection? Curious what it looks like. I was very underwhelmed with some of the latest 70mm prints that were struck from a digital master, READY PLAYER ONE looked particularly soft, even in comparison with the 2k DCPs that I have seen on various projectors (DLP and SXRD). If we're lucky we'll get a 70mm at some point for one the festivals here in Europe (Bradford, Karlsruhe, ...).  |  IP: Logged Kieran Hall Film Handler Posts: 28 From: Coventry, UK Registered: Nov 2017 posted 01-30-2019 07:21 PM                        So, it seems the BFI Southbank had a print for a s ingle screening. Anybody know if there are any further plans for it over this side of the pond? We'd definitely jump at the chance to book it!  |  IP: Logged Terry Monohan Master Film Handler Posts: 379 From: San Francisco CA USA Registered: May 2014 posted 01-31-2019 10:44 PM                     The Castro Theatre in SF will be bringing 'ROMA' back again for 4 days on 70mm film starting Friday Feb 15 2019. So many cinemas are missing playing this film the next few weeks as It may win best movie along with Green Book.  |  IP: Logged Bill Hogan Film Handler Posts: 4 From: Burbank, CA USA Registered: May 2009 posted 02-15-2019 01:55 AM                     Unfortunally all 70 mm titles that originate as a digital file are output to a film negative via a older CRT recorder. With the limited resolution of the CRT and the CRT face plate flare the film outs are not very sharp. There was never a laser recorder built for 65 mm negative stock.  |  IP: Logged David Farris Film Handler Posts: 2 From: Bangalore, Karnataka India Registered: Feb 2016 posted 02-15-2019 04:08 AM                     Bill Hogan, that's very interesting, I wasn't aware. That reminds me of a perhaps basic question--if it's coming from a digital source, why print to a negative, and incur generation loss, rather than a positive? Is there a technical reason why the result of printing to a negative and then striking a positive would be better? (I don't understand the differences between the two processes well enough for this to be obvious.) Happy to know for either CRT or laser recorders.  |  IP: Logged Bill Hogan Film Handler Posts: 4 From: Burbank, CA USA Registered: May 2009 posted 02-15-2019 04:41 AM                     Although there is (was) the "CINEVATOR" that could record directly to positive print film stock the process for the last 125 years is to make a negative (in a film camera or from a film recorder) and then make as many positive film prints as desired. This allows the negative which takes a very long to make on a film recorder to be used to make many prints. I think there was decussion of the FOTOKEM lab making about 10 prints of ROMA. The printing speed can be as low as 100 feet per minute and when Technicolor/Deluxe were still open printing speed for 35 mm could be more than 2000 feet per minute.  |  IP: Logged Tyler Purcell Expert Film Handler Posts: 180 From: Van Nuys, CA Registered: Dec 2015 posted 02-18-2019 09:20 PM                        Hey Bill. Few things to note... Cinevators are still very much around. In fact, they're still used for archiving purposes and the company is still alive. Sadly though, they're only for 35mm, there is no alternative then the old CRT for 65/70mm. However, crispness of the prints has never been a question. I've seen nearly all of them and found them very crisp in most cases. I haven't seen a bad 4k recording, but I have seen some pretty bad 2k recordings that were soft. Wonder Woman would have been one of them. Most 70mm prints are done photochemically. Yes, in the last few years we've seen a push for regular movies to be presented on 70, but to my count, there were only 5 done before Warner kinda gave up the idea as theaters lost interest. 'The Master', 'Interstellar', 'Inherent Vice', 'Hateful Eight', 'Dunkirk', and 'Phantom Thread' all done photochemically, with VFX shots cut into the camera negative. It's unfortunate they shot 'Batman V Superman' and 'Wonder Woman' on anamorphic 35mm, but did an entire digital post. I think this was mainly because there were so many VFX shots and frankly, the studio's don't care about quality. Nearly everything is still shot at 3.8k and finished in 2k, with the rare exception, usually 6 - 8 titles a year being 4k though the entire workflow including distribution.  |  IP: Logged

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