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Topic: When did Star Wars become "Episode IV"?
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Mark J. Marshall
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From: New Castle, DE, USA
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 02-17-2003 09:11 PM
I remember a special on TV where Mark Hamill was talking about being in a car on his way to do some last minute dialogue looping and he passed a huge mob of people standing around in the street. Later he found out that they were waiting to get in to see Star Wars at a theater.
Now I forget which was which, but he was on his way to do looping for the either the 35mm prints, or the 70mm prints, but it turned out that which ever one he was working on, the other was done, prints were struck and were showing already.
The details are a bit sketchy in my head at the moment, but I remember being left with the impression that they would end up with two different (albiet slightly) sound mixes, and potentially different dialogue. Not just different lines, but voice inflections and the like may be different. This may account for some differences that some are discussing here.
Just thought I'd toss that out. Cheers!
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Michael Schaffer
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posted 02-18-2003 06:41 AM
You are right.
This is from the article "The Dolby Sound System for Star Wars"
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Final mixing took place at Goldwyn Studios in April of this year. Because of the dual release requirements, six-track 70mm and stereo optical, a four-track master was prepared, carrying left, center, right and surround information. At the end of the mix, the four-track was used to prepare a two-track running master for stereo optical use, and the same four-track was also taken to Todd-AO where it was used to make a six-track running master for 70mm. Optical printing was carried out at Deluxe Labs, and the 70mm recording at Todd-AO.
More than 50% of the first-wave release theatres for Star Wars will be equipped with Dolby theatre playback packages, containing the necessary noise-reduction decoders and equalizers that exactly tailor the loud-speaker responses to match those of the dubbing theatre where the film was mixed. In this way, for the first time ever, the sound heard in the theatre should to all intents be identical to that heard by the director during the mix.
This is from the moviesoundpage
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'Star Wars Special Edition', the 1997 version of the original classic, features a 5.1 channel digital soundtrack in all three formats (DTS®, Dolby Digital®, and SDDSTM). Contrary to what would be widely expected, the essential basis for this new track would not be the 70mm six-track master. According to Tom Christopher in "Post" (see references), the six-track, which was used for the THX laserdisc remaster, was exhibiting some defects due to aging. The decision was made to pull out a vintage 4-track magnetic source, mixed back in 1977. The track was de-hissed and equalized across all channels. The surround channel, which is mono, went through a decorrelator in some scenes (decorrelation is a process by which a single channel is divided in two and then phase-scrambled to enhance spaciousness); for others stereo ambience and L/R effects were added. LFE (low frequency effects) information was added selectively in certain sequences to bump up the low end and take advantage of the dedicated bass channel capability of 5.1 digital sound.
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Michael Coate
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From: Los Angeles, California
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 02-28-2003 07:39 PM
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[Star Wars] also was originaly given a G rating. So Lucas filmed the scene of the cut off arm laying on the floor in the cantina scene and resubmited the film and got the PG rating.
From a June 2, 1977 issue of Variety:
"20th-Fox Opted For PG Rather Than G 'Star Wars' Rating"
The reason "Star Wars" carries a PG rating instead of a G is that 20th-Fox preferred the PG, Daily Variety has learned. When the pic was submitted to the Motion Picture Association of America's Code & Rating Administration, the vote was split evenly between G and PG, and 20th asked for the stricter rating.
A spokesman for the production confirmed the rating situation and said producer Gary Kurtz felt the pic contained scenes that might be frightening to small children unaccompanied by adults [the producer's children acted as Jawas in the film...that was probably pretty frightening for him to see - MC].
Other, unofficial sources close to the production reported, however, that 20th feared a backlash effect from teenagers if the film were to receive a G, which is sometimes considered an "uncool" rating in teenage circles, since G is usually associated with family-type pix.
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