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Author Topic: No SE for TITANIC -- WTF? Paul Mayer Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under! Posts: 3836 From: Albuquerque, NM Registered: Feb 2000 posted 07-25-2005 11:00 PM                        I'm not sure how it works either, but even on my cheap players it works well. The Miramax R1 DVD of Princess Mononoke uses it to display either the Japanese or English opening title sequence and closing credits based on which soundtrack you've selected.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 07-26-2005 12:19 AM                        I must know how this works so I can make it happen on DVDs that I author. I should ask on the Apple forums but I am too lazy. I want the answers spoon fed to me.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 07-26-2005 12:47 AM                     Get one of those discs Bobby listed and see if it jumps on your DVD player. If so, your DVD player sucks ass and should be beaten into 892 pieces, then a nice cheapo one like Paul has purchased for it's replacement. If they play fine, then drop the disc into a computer and see what's going on with DVD Shrink.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 07-26-2005 01:18 AM                        Obviously it is handled by scripting. Does DVD Shrink show you the scripts? I have Princess Mononoke DVD starring Billy Bob Thornton, the world's most hated person.  |  IP: Logged Bill Gabel Film God Posts: 3873 From: Technicolor / Postworks NY, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 10-17-2005 09:11 PM                     quote: Joe Redifer I just hope the movie itself fits on one disc. Just got sent a 3 disc version from Paramount New York. In the 3-disc version, the movie is broken up on to two discs. Disc 1 features: Commentary by Director James Cameron Cast & Crew Commentary by Kate Winslet, Gloria Stuart, Lewis Abernathy, Jon Landau and Rae Sanchini Historical Commentary by Don Lynch and Ken Marschall Branching To Behind-the-Scenes Featurettes Disc 2 Features commentaries by the above director and players. Branching to Behind-the-Scenes Featurttes Alternate Ending: "Brock's Epiphany" Music Video: "My Heart Will Go On" by Celine Dion Disc 3 Over 45 minutes of Never-Before-Seen Deleted Scenes with optional commentary. Fox Special: Breaking New Ground Press Kitt Featurettes 1912 Newsreel Construction Timelapse Deep Dive Presentation Videomatics Visual Effects Breakdowns Still Galleries And So Much More! (That's what the package says) The soundtracks are: DTS 6.1 ES Dolby Digital English 5.1 EX English 2.0 Surround French 2.0 Surround Spanish 2.0 Surround Widescreen Enhanced for 16x9 TVs Andy get those JBLs and your THX system fired up this.  |  IP: Logged Andy Summers Master Film Handler Posts: 397 From: Bournemouth Dorset United kingdom Registered: Jun 2005 posted 10-17-2005 09:48 PM                 Bill’ I’m all ready fired, and I’m wanting for the region 2 DVD release next month and the previous version I all ready have is complex enough, lords knows what techniques they have done to this version, but I’m sure the dynamics are going to be big. I’ll be looking out for the 4 disc set, so do you all ready own the previous version, and if so have you done an A&B test, a simple test with the SPL db meter, and keeping the fader at the same level, I’ve also noted there’s no documentary for Sound mixing as “Skywalker Sound” did an outstanding achievement on this one….  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 10-18-2005 12:20 AM                        Unacceptable! I don't give a rat's ass what the directors, actors, historians and foley people have to say. Get rid of all of those comments. Secondly there is absolutely no reason whatsoever for English Dolby Digital 2.0 sound. All DVD players everywhere downmix the 5.1 to 2.0, and if the 5.1 track was encoded with each surround 90 degrees out of phase (which is easily applied in the Dolby encoder after mixing), then you have perfect Dolby Pro Logic 2. Get rid of that track. Nobody needs the French or the Spanish Dolby Digital 2.0 tracks either. Since they are not English then they cannot be considered true languages. Get rid of branching tracks. I hate that. They are worthless. Now get rid of the Dolby 5.1 EX track. Offer a separate Dolby-only version as well as a DTS-only version like they did with Jurassic Park. Now get rid of the 6 tons of unskippable animated menus, FBI warnings, studio logos, and the like that are surely going to be offered. Instead have a simple still menu without sound and with simple overlays instead of layered buttons. The only options will be PLAY and DO NOT PLAY. At the bottom of the menu will be some text from the FBI that says "PLZ don't copy this movie! We will all go broke and die starving on the street. But we have high hopes that a warning from the FBI will actually deter you. Yes, we think you are an idiot!" Get rid of all the subtitles. People who cannot hear simply do not deserve to watch movies. Blind people cannot watch movies, so why should deaf people get special treatment? With all of that useless crap gone, the movie can now fit on a single disc and be enjoyed without being broken into pieces and pissing me off. Weak people will probably need the interruption to go pee. Not me. Put all of the extra crap that nobody will watch more than once on a second, disposable disc. Stupid fuckers. And yes, I'll probably buy it.  |  IP: Logged Andy Summers Master Film Handler Posts: 397 From: Bournemouth Dorset United kingdom Registered: Jun 2005 posted 10-18-2005 12:33 AM                 As I suspected, you’re a rank cynical miserable git, you don’t like anything well, that is what most normal people do like, yeah sure I agree with the Dolby 2.0 track does seem a waste, and extra audio commentary could have been saved just for you Joe’ “The Joe’ how you’ll be swinging from the chandelier commentary tack within 60secounds.”  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 10-18-2005 04:17 AM                        quote: Andy Summers The Joe’ how you’ll be swinging from the chandelier commentary tack within 60secounds. Can you please translate this sentence as it is obviously not in English. I suggest you learn the language at your nearest opportunity. It is vital for proper communication. And hell yeah... it's people like me who don't settle for "good enough" and strive to make things "as good as possible". Without assholes like me you'd be stuck with VHS.  |  IP: Logged Joseph L. Kleiman Master Film Handler Posts: 380 From: Sacramento, CA Registered: Apr 2005 posted 10-18-2005 11:10 AM                     Perhaps one day I can be a rank cynical misserable git too. The thing I can't stand is the message after the FBI warning - the one in French. Why the hell is there a message in French on a North American DVD? Why the hell is the French soundtrack recorded by French Canadians and not by the French or Belgians? Why isn't there a warning in Spanish and Chinese for crying out loud? They should be warning in Chinese! That's where all the pirated DVD's are coming from.....China and Colorado.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-18-2005 12:00 PM                        I can just hear the pirates now: Oh look, there's a warning....what's that? It is a FEDERAL offense to copy this? QUICK, turn off the computer!  |  IP: Logged Andy Summers Master Film Handler Posts: 397 From: Bournemouth Dorset United kingdom Registered: Jun 2005 posted 10-18-2005 03:23 PM                 Yeah turn off the pc, I don’t fancy picking soap up for the next five years….  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 10-18-2005 04:34 PM                        Piracy in nine countries: Paraguay - 99% are illegal pirated copies China - 85% Indonesia - 80% Ukraine - 68% Russia - 66% Mexico - 60% Pakistan - 59% India - 56% US - LESS THAN 10 PERCENT! Source - IFPI 2005 Commercial Piracy Report Now who wants to cry me a river about how there should be tons of strict standards in the US on piracy? The US is not where the problem is, so why are companies taking it out on us? This HDCP bullshit is going way too far.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 10-18-2005 05:21 PM                     Like I keep saying, HDCP, HDMI and Sony's latest "DVD player phone home and authenticate" efforts are stepping stones to pay per every view DVDs. Hollywood really doesn't give a rat's ass about piracy. They just want a lot more short term money and think you have it to give. About piracy in other countries (such as China), Hollywood and our government again do not care. Multi-national corporations own the Hollywood studios and they want to outsource as much of America overseas for short term gain as possible. If that means eating it overseas on some piracy, so be it. Their profits elsewhere will be much bigger. Some of the CEOs out there must masturbate to visions of an America where most of it consists of an endless gated community for 20 or so trillionaries. The rest of us will get crammed into a work camp outside of Bakersfield, California (or perhaps moved down to Mexico).  |  IP: Logged Andy Summers Master Film Handler Posts: 397 From: Bournemouth Dorset United kingdom Registered: Jun 2005 posted 10-18-2005 05:48 PM                 Now if the copyright laws where not upheld, there will be, a rising climb and the warnings need to be said again and again with fierce conviction…  |  IP: Logged

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