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Author Topic: The Laserdisc Appreciation Thread Darryl Spicer Film God Posts: 3250 From: Lexington, KY, USA Registered: Dec 2000 posted 08-27-2007 09:03 AM                    quote: Allison Parsons So how hard is it to transfer/burn a laserdisc on to a DVD via your computer? 1) I have a Dell 'pooter with DVD burning software (Roxio). 2) I have yet to buy a LD player. I know where I can get one but i have to get off my lazy ass and get it haha. Am I going to have to buy some uber expenisve software or whatever? Or will this be easier than I think...? You will need a video capturing device that you can plug the laser-disc player into. It may be easier to just buy a Stand alone DVD burner and burn it directly to that. You will have to do the same thing either way in regards to the fact that the recording will be done in real time. I have done this on several occasions. I usually find the endpoint of a laser disc side so I will know when to pause the recording to flip the disc. It usually results in a seamless unnoticed edit. One thing you will not have to worry about is copy guard. Laser discs did not have it.  |  IP: Logged Brad Allen Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 688 From: Evansville, IN, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 08-27-2007 04:17 PM                     The standalone DVD recorder is the least painful method.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 08-27-2007 05:32 PM                     ..and how I copied a lot of my LD's .. with a DVD recorder (and not worrying about any copy protection nor region nonsense with LD's) - and do agree: far, far less painful than with doing video capture via computer.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 08-27-2007 05:55 PM                        I've done this once for a LaserDisc I still own that I thought I would sell. I just recorded the whole thing into my Mac with Final Cut Pro using an extrernal box that converts composite and/or s-video into a DV stream which gets sent to the Mac via firewire. Once that was done I used my x-treme editing abilities and endless talent to make the side change absolutely seemless. Then using my limited knowledge (at the time) of DVD compression I made an M2V and an AC3 file which I imported into DVD Studio Pro and burned a DVD. Easy! These days I'd use a dual layer DVD so I wouldn't have to compress it as much as well as dual-pass variable bit rate encoding. Then I'd make specific chapter marks in DVD Studio Pro as well as specify a good break point for the layer switching. I don't know if stand-alone DVD recorders can burn dual layer discs.  |  IP: Logged Allison Parsons Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 630 From: East Peoria, IL Registered: Oct 2004 posted 08-27-2007 06:32 PM                        Ok, I have a stand alone burner and a laserdisc play lined up. Do I still need a video capturing device?  |  IP: Logged Darryl Spicer Film God Posts: 3250 From: Lexington, KY, USA Registered: Dec 2000 posted 08-27-2007 06:41 PM                    No the stand alone DVD burner is like a VCR just plug in the video and sound from the Laser-disc player and follow the stand alone recorders directions for recording from another source.  |  IP: Logged Jesse Skeen Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1517 From: Sacramento, CA Registered: Aug 2000 posted 08-27-2007 07:08 PM                     Duplicate post!  |  IP: Logged Jesse Skeen Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1517 From: Sacramento, CA Registered: Aug 2000 posted 08-27-2007 07:09 PM                     When putting LDs onto DVD, I set my player so it displays "A--B" on the screen while it's switching sides, and "STOP" at the end of side 2. That way, I can run it through the computer and edit out the player spinning up the disc, changing sides and stopping, but nothing that's on the actual disc. I can't retain any AC3 or DTS tracks, or record both the PCM and analog tracks which would be helpful when there's alternate audio on the analog tracks; I just don't transfer discs that have those. I still prefer to play the actual laserdisc if I have it anyways since the uncompressed PCM sound is better. Some cool laserdisc stuff I've put online: Original Image Entertainment opening, followed by short list of available porn titles. Image used the "flying discs" opening on all their titles til 1989, if you freeze it you can see that all the discs are "Debbie Does Dallas". I have a couple G-rated movies that have this opening. The part listing the porno titles was only included on porno movies however. Later Image opening from 1989 til the end of the format, also found on their first DVDs. The familiar "turtle side", but in Japanese. "Wrong Side" message from LDs pressed by Technidisc, the worst laserdisc manufacturer though this one is quite good.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 08-27-2007 10:15 PM                        If you really want to have fun, convert the video back into a 24p native format before you encode the MPEG2. No interlacing artifacts!  |  IP: Logged Mark J. Marshall Film God Posts: 3188 From: New Castle, DE, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 08-29-2007 12:29 PM                    And add an anamorphic squeeze - just for good measure. With DVD studio, you could pretty easily make a second audio track for the commentary - once you capture it, of course. Laser disks were also good at producing any subtitles below the frame on part of the letterboxing. Of course if you zoom in on the image with your widescreen TV, you potentially lose part of the subtitle area (unless you adjust the picture all the way up on your TV - which is a pain). With Final Cut & DVD Studio, you could matte that area out and add your own new subtitle track, up on the picture to solve that problem - if you so desired.  |  IP: Logged Blaine Young Master Film Handler Posts: 477 From: Kirkland, WA, USA Registered: Sep 2006 posted 08-29-2007 12:39 PM                     I suppose I just don't understand the reason for transferring the LD's to DVD. I mean if you're talking about a couple of discs that you've got and you're going to dump the entire format, that is one thing - but frankly I can't stand watching DVD for it's compression artifacts. And the time and effort it would take to transfer my library to DVD would be ... well too long.  |  IP: Logged Allison Parsons Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 630 From: East Peoria, IL Registered: Oct 2004 posted 08-30-2007 08:02 PM                        Thank you everyone for you help. As we speak I'm burning the BBC series The Tripods (season 1) on DVD via external burner. I'm actually amazed on how easy it is. Ahh, the wonders of technology. One down, about 8 more to go....  |  IP: Logged Oliver Harper Film Handler Posts: 29 From: Cambridge, United kingdom Registered: Mar 2007 posted 11-03-2007 04:34 AM                     I love LaserDisc, i have a Pioneer Elite CLD-99. Awesome player with a great picutre..I still love watching LD. THe sound is incredible, lovely PCM tracks and uncompressed DTS tracks cant be beaten.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 11-03-2007 04:43 AM                        Yeah. Too bad uncompressed DTS hasn't yet been offered to the consumer.  |  IP: Logged Damien Taylor Master Film Handler Posts: 493 From: Perth, Western Australia Registered: Apr 2007 posted 11-03-2007 09:25 AM                     They never majorly took off in this country, and i'm pretty sure were never released at all in this state. The player I had to settle with was a one side playing model that they used to demo tv's with back in the day when LD was the best quality consumer format. I had to bring home all my LD's from a trip to Sydney, my suitcase was 8Kg's going over and 30 coming back.  |  IP: Logged

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