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Author Topic: DVD and 35mm Film Projection Larry Myers Master Film Handler Posts: 371 From: Herndon, VA, USA Registered: Jan 2001 posted 03-19-2006 04:17 PM                 That seems to be a good price of a 4805. I notice they recommend several adaptors from M1 to Component and M1 to HDMI. Do I need these connections?  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 03-19-2006 05:53 PM                     I can't believe you guys are discussing data projectors on a thread titled "DVD vs. 35mm film projection". Larry, edit the title of this thread to properly reflect what it is discussing.  |  IP: Logged Larry Myers Master Film Handler Posts: 371 From: Herndon, VA, USA Registered: Jan 2001 posted 03-19-2006 06:05 PM                 I can see how this might be misleading but since my intention is to setup both 35mm and DVD projection, I don't think it's misleading. I am NOT talking about resolution differences but dual purpose projection setups of 35mm and DVD's Maybe I should change the "vs" to "and". If that is exceptable to you, I will do that. Right now, I am looking at two Infocus projectors. The Infocus 4805 for $680 and the Infocus SP5000 for $860. The SP5000 is a HDTV unit and my be worth every bit of the extra $200. Any comments from anyone.  |  IP: Logged Peter Berrett Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 602 From: Victoria, Australia Registered: Nov 2000 posted 03-19-2006 08:04 PM                        I forgot to mention Use the code REFURB0306 on any used refurbished projector at Infocus = get 10% off. So that $729 projector will only cost $656.10. Ka ching! Also check out this website for projector coupons and bargains XPbargains cheers Peter  |  IP: Logged Larry Myers Master Film Handler Posts: 371 From: Herndon, VA, USA Registered: Jan 2001 posted 03-19-2006 09:03 PM                 The prices I gave are for Ebay items sold by Infocus. I am not sure the code would work for ebay items. It seems Radio Shack is running a direct order deal for a new SP5000 for $1100 free shipping and a $300 rebate for a total cost of $800. It's good to 31 March. I wonder if any of the stores have this in stock?  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 03-20-2006 01:11 AM                     Larry, edit the title of this thread to properly reflect what it is discussing.  |  IP: Logged Larry Myers Master Film Handler Posts: 371 From: Herndon, VA, USA Registered: Jan 2001 posted 03-21-2006 12:02 PM                 I just came back from a home theater store in Herndon. They have two home theater setups like mine. The room is 10 by 16 with no booth. My booth takes up some space in the back, so my room is 11 by 11.5. Their screen size is a little over 4 by 8 feet for a 1.85 ratio vs my 2.35 scope screen at 3.5 by 8 ft. The viewing distance is exactly the same at 11.5 feet. The $2900 Sharp 2000 and not the Panasonic 900 which is another projector, did a good job with wide screen DVD's as far a brightness. The image size was a black bar 3.5 by 8 feet on the 4x8 screen at 12.5 feet projection distance. I thought though the image was somewhat fuzzy. I watched the Aviator. I have this in both 35mm and DVD. I must say when I watch that DVD on an anamorphic mode Panasonic Widescreen glass tube HDTV it looks way sharper then when the DVD was projected on the 3.5x8 screen. Not sure why that is.  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 03-21-2006 12:07 PM                        quote: Larry Myers I must say when I watch that DVD on an anamorphic mode Panasonic Widescreen glass tube HDTV it looks way sharper then when the DVD was projected on the 3.5x8 screen. Not sure why that is. Likely due to the superior contrast ratio and color gamut of a CRT display, compared to a mid-range video projector. Likely the CRT display has a much greater screen luminance as well.  |  IP: Logged Mitchell Dvoskin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1869 From: West Milford, NJ, USA Registered: Jan 2001 posted 03-21-2006 12:12 PM                     Not sure why that is. The Panasonic "900" projector is an LCD projector that contains an electronic circuit that "hides" the screen door effect by slightly blurring the dots. If you can get far enough back, it looks quite good, but DLP projectors look better still. Street price on the "900" is around $1300 on-line.  |  IP: Logged Larry Myers Master Film Handler Posts: 371 From: Herndon, VA, USA Registered: Jan 2001 posted 03-21-2006 12:43 PM                 I think I got this mixed up. The projector I am talking about above is the Sharp 2000 which is a DLP projector. The other showroom had the Panasonic 900 which I noticed had lower contrast and is a LCD projector. I spent most of my time with the Sharp. Retail price was quoted at $2900. I corrected my previous post to reflect this. Both looked a little out of focus and yes I think it's to reduce the dot pattern.  |  IP: Logged Mike Heenan Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1896 From: Scottsdale, AZ, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 06-04-2006 12:02 AM                     I was at Costco today, and they have a Samsung 1080p HD tv for $3499, they were showing Batman begins on dvd on the tv, and the DVD player showed it as being upscaled to 1080i. Anyhoo, I wasn't impressed with it at all, the characters would stutter as they moved, like in slow motion almost. Also, it had a look to it that reminded me of watching regular defition tv on a digital tv, just sort of smeary or something. Was this the fault of the dvd player, the DVD or the TV not being set up right? Just curious as I thought 1080p was "all that". And yes I know I was watching a SD dvd on it.  |  IP: Logged Mitchell Dvoskin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1869 From: West Milford, NJ, USA Registered: Jan 2001 posted 06-05-2006 10:38 AM                     From your description, most probably a result of the upconverting DVD player. Some discs look better than others upconverted, with no logic, ryme or reason.  |  IP: Logged Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 06-06-2006 10:48 AM                        Rarely does upscaleing make anything look better. It just substitutes one pile of for another. You cannot create something that isn't there. Garbage in = gargbage out -- always was, always will be. Even line doubling has it's anomolies, it's just a matter of which of them you can tolerate more. But the law of the universe is that you can't make something out of nothing....play it native and be happy with it and accept the fact that it is what it is (and film it aint). And let's not overlook the fact that it just isn't safe trying to get around the laws that hold the fabric of the universe together.  |  IP: Logged

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