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Robert Minichino
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posted 12-21-2007 11:29 AM

Why'd he get upset? Couldn't see the logos with the screen in front? [Smile]

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James Westbrook
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posted 12-21-2007 03:49 PM

Dr. Bose assumed people would want to go to the theatre to hear his speakers, not see the movie.
How did he aquire the designation of Dr?

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Frank Angel
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posted 12-22-2007 04:27 PM

quote: Robert Throop
When the National theatre on Broadway in NYC opened in the early seventies they had Bose screen speakers personally installed by Dr. Bose. The story I heard was that when he realized that a screen would hang in front of his speakers he got upset. They were subsequently removed and replaced with A-4's.

That is precious! [Big Grin]

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David Stambaugh
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posted 12-22-2007 07:01 PM

Amar Bose at wikipedia

quote:
...obtained a Ph.D. from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. His Ph.D. thesis was a highly mathematical treatise on non-linear systems

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James Westbrook
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posted 12-23-2007 02:27 AM

That would make him a Dr, all right...

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Frank Angel
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posted 12-23-2007 04:14 PM

Pretentious....just like his products.

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Ron Curran
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posted 12-23-2007 06:52 PM

We have a pair of “used-to-be” Bose in the rear surround channel.

They suffered the usual foam rot and the drivers were replaced with Danish Peerless types. They actually soun better than the originals. We might build some better boxes for them.

A bit like that good axe that had four new blades and six new handles.

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Louis Bornwasser
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posted 12-30-2007 11:03 AM

Bose is . . . . .a little like a Volvo in the USA. Stupid drivers buy them because they are "safe.(?)" This is to compensate for the fact that they are truly lousy drivers...and who NEVER use turn signals.

This is not to denigrate Volvo in Europe where the turn signals seem to work just fine. Louis

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Rick Raskin
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posted 12-30-2007 07:12 PM

Must be a local thing. Here in Northern Virginia turn signals are an invitation for some asshole to speed up and cut you off.

On topic: I saw a demo of the wave radio at O'Hare airport. Not exactly the place to be critical of sound performance. I appreciate the real rundown on the product as I had been curious. No more!

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Sam D. Chavez
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posted 01-13-2008 12:46 PM

Re: Volvo.

The ones out here in SF and Berkeley have turn signals that work fine.

Must be a regional thing there where drivers are only used to the location of the turn signal stalk on their Chevy pickup.

Kidding!!!

Re: Bose, to paraphrase Lonny Jennings, "No highs, no lows, it must be Bose"

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Bruce Hansen
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posted 01-15-2008 01:08 PM

People in the US are very gullable, and stupid. Look at how many people in the this country voted to re-elect a President that lied us into a war! Some people will believe anything, as long as it i what they want to hear. Too bad we don't teach a class in school on how to check facts. There would be far fewer scams that worked here, if people would just THINK.

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Dave Macaulay
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posted 01-17-2008 02:27 PM

Bose does an amazing job of selling snake oil. Their marketing budget must be orders of magnitude higher than their engineering budget.
There was a recent study that compared wines, the subjects were only told the "price" of each bottle. The wines labelled more expensive were always rated better, even when the same wine was in all bottles or expensive wine was marked cheaper than plonk.
People who bought Bose stuff routinely believe Bose sounds better than anything else even when the difference is demonstrated.
Bose pays chain stores for space to install Bose listening rooms where only Bose speakers are demonstrated, and provides higher markups to encourage sales.
The 901 is a famous example of selling hype. They sound like crap, and using cheap small speakers in a cheap cabinet they cost very little to make. The control box is just a simple equalizer to take out the midrange peak where the tiny speakers excel and remove low frequencies that would shoot the little cones into the wall. Trademarking "direct/reflecting" was brilliant... unless you're in an anechoic chamber this is how every speaker works.
SO they have $20.00 speakers and a $2.00 control box and they sell them for $500.00. Pretty sweet profit to finance the marketing campaign. Every magazine with a 18-35 male readership had a Bose ad in every issue in the 70's.
I had several acquaintances who bought these things. Most had "ampzilla" powering them, it did make a good room heater. One guy remodelled his living room into a bright front/dead rear acoustic space to try and get some imaging out of them, this was the best sounding 601s I have heard... inspect that Bose listening room at Future Crap and you'll see what he tried to do.
Anyway, in a world where prople spend $1,000.00 for a 6 foot AC cord for their DVD player, and believe it sounds better than the OEM cord (especially after "seasoning" and if supported off the floor by Brazilian ironwood cord stands...) Bose isn't much of a snake oil salesman after all.
Have a look at http://www.machinadynamica.com/index.html for the king of snake oil... I'm not really sure if this site is a joke mocking the golden ear audiophiles but if he actually sells any of this nonsense then he's a pretty smart operator! No product there is more ridiculous than the teleportation tweak room tune-up phone call, but they are all pretty funny.

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Tim Reed
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posted 01-20-2008 02:44 AM

quote: Rick Raskin
turn signals are an invitation for some asshole to speed up and cut you off.

Here, too, in PA, NY, and NJ. [Big Grin]

Re: Bose Wave... Paul Harvey says it can make the deaf hear. [Eek!]

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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From: Music City
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posted 01-21-2008 02:57 PM

quote: Tim Reed
Re: Bose Wave... Paul Harvey says it can make the deaf hear.

I guess Paul WOULD know that at his late age [Roll Eyes]

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Mark

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Bruce Hansen
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From: Stone Mountain, GA, USA
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posted 01-28-2008 05:20 PM

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Topic: Why is the general public so enamored with BOSE?

Here is another guess: People like over-paying for CRAP. Just look at how many people have Micro-crap Windows on their computer. [puke]

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