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Author Topic: Netflix streaming to TV Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 10-27-2008 08:45 PM                     No surprise it's using silverlight instead of flash. Not only because flash likely doesn't have the security features they required, but also because netflix was already working with Microsoft all along (since their current system uses windows media player). And with an open-source implementation of silverlight (moonlight) this means I could use the view instantly from my linux desktop.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 10-27-2008 09:08 PM                     Adobe has been doing lots and lots of security work on Flash. There's nothing wrong with Flash at all. Adobe has even opened up huge portions of Flash, PDF and SVG technology to open source interests. The real deal is who gets the royalty check from Netflix. Right now it seems like Microsoft is the recipient on that one. This also brings up the current stupidity taking place at Apple regarding their resistance to allow BD authoring the Mac platform. Apple is taking the stance that it is all over licensing issues of BD technology. Steve Jobs derided Blu-ray as a "big bag of hurt." Final Cut Studio and iMovie don't handle Blu-ray natively at all. No Macs can be ordered with Blu-ray drives installed. If you want to do BD authoring on a Mac you have to do it via 3rd party hardware and 3rd party software entirely. Right now, all of the enterprise level BD authoring (the movie discs us BD player owners buy) is taking place on Windows-based systems. Sonic Scenarist, Sony Blu-print and other turnkey BD systems are all PC based. Why is that happening? PCs are supposed to be so ungodly suck-tastic that such a thing would be impossible. I'm pissed about this because I have a good amount of Apple stock in my retirement fund (it's really under-priced right now) and I think the company needs to get off this anti-BD bullshit tangent already. Their iTunes, iPods and iPhones business is going to do just fine even if you can buy Mac towers and iMacs with BD burners pre-installed. Apple needs to wake the hell up before they give a big part of their professional business away to folks like Adobe.  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 10-28-2008 12:20 PM                     quote: Bobby Henderson There's nothing wrong with Flash at all. Adobe has even opened up huge portions of Flash, PDF and SVG technology to open source interests. Tell that to the developers of gnash. That open-source flash player only completely supports flash v7 and it supports parts of v8 and 9 (and nothing in version 10). Then there's the fact that gnash is the only flash implementation for 64-bit at all. And how did adobe open up SVG, a technology they didn't develop? In fact, adobe originally came up with a standard that competed with SVG.  |  IP: Logged Mike Olpin Chop Chop! Posts: 1852 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Jan 2002 posted 10-29-2008 05:14 PM                     This is also coming to "The New XBOX Experience" next month. I'll have a look at it then. Movies are "lean back" entertainment, and I don't want to watch them leaning forward at a desk.  |  IP: Logged Laurie Higgins Film Handler Posts: 45 From: Norcross, GA, USA Registered: Jun 2008 posted 10-29-2008 05:37 PM                        As far as sound goes, we were running it through out PC speakers and just recently switched that to the TV speakers as our home theater system is not hooked up ATM because our receiver fritzed out and hasn't been replaced. But I do see your point.  |  IP: Logged David Stambaugh Film God Posts: 4021 From: Eugene, Oregon Registered: Jan 2002 posted 01-11-2009 08:20 PM                        TiVo recently added NetFlix streaming capability (at least on their HD units). Today I took the plunge, joined NetFlix, and tried streaming Season 1 Episode 1 of "Weeds" via the TiVo. It worked fine, no glitches whatsoever. The picture quality wasn't great, not even close to DVD, but it was perfectly watchable. So far, I like.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 01-12-2009 12:19 AM                     I watched a Netflix on demand streaming movie via an Xbox a few weeks ago and although it was NOT DVD quality, I've got to say it was pretty impressive and perfectly acceptable for the purpose. The Xbox will do a speed test on your internet connection before it actually starts playing the movie to see what your line can handle, and maximizes the quality of the stream. This was on a pretty good DSL line, but regardless it didn't glitch once.  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 01-12-2009 02:21 AM                     Also, the new silverlight player beta, which removes the requirement of using both windows media player and IE (as in it will play with firefox without the "IE tab" plugin) is a significant improvement. And the beta is the only option for anyone using a Mac, if you happen to have one.  |  IP: Logged Allison Parsons Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 630 From: East Peoria, IL Registered: Oct 2004 posted 07-20-2009 10:58 AM                        I'm bumping this up. Ok, now that the Roku is available in HD, is the quality more of a 'dvd' quality? Also, how's the sound quality on one of those? I'm thinking about picking one up, but want to get some feedback from everyone before I did.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 07-20-2009 03:20 PM                     quote: Allison Parsons Ok, now that the Roku is available in HD, is the quality more of a 'dvd' quality? Also, how's the sound quality on one of those? I can't find any reviews that definitively say how good or bad the audio/video quality is with HD on Roku. Based on other HD download setups I've seen I wouldn't have high expectations on the quality end. A video stream can be squeezed down to only so small a file size before it looks pretty terrible. I think the HD quality from Apple TV is pretty miserable. Digital cable and satellite operate at higher bandwidths and even some of those HD channels can look pretty crappy at times. If the file sizes from Roku are in a similar level of severity (like only 4GB to 8GB for a 2 hour movie) it's a good bet the results will be similar. quote: Chris Slycord And how did adobe open up SVG, a technology they didn't develop? In fact, adobe originally came up with a standard that competed with SVG. Adobe, among others, indeed did help develop SVG. Adobe is on the SVG steering committee. Adobe Illustrator is also the best application available for creating, editing and saving SVG files. Duplication of effort is nothing new with Adobe. Just look at all the Photoshop-like functions needlessly thrown into Illustrator. The company developed the Postscript graphics language and continues to develop it further. They also developed PDF which is largely a competing standard with Postscript. The last few versions of Adobe Illustrator and have been built upon PDF technology. InDesign was based on PDF from the start.  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 07-20-2009 04:03 PM                     I stand corrected. I guess this is a case of "If you can't beat then, join (and help) them."  |  IP: Logged Adam Martin I'm not even gonna point out the irony. Posts: 3686 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Nov 2000 posted 07-20-2009 05:19 PM                     The Roku player was voted Engadget's home entertainment product of the year. As far as stream quality goes, well, that's mostly up to your internet connection; Netflix offers three streams of most content. Oh, and Netflix isn't the only thing that the Roku box can do.  |  IP: Logged John Wilson Film God Posts: 5438 From: Sydney, Australia. Registered: Dec 1999 posted 07-20-2009 06:26 PM                     quote: Frank Angel Stick it out for another 15min and you'd better have someone close by with a pencil handy to stick in your mouth because you'll be on the floor taking a grand mal. Sorry, just read it and wanted to acknowledge it.  |  IP: Logged Allison Parsons Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 630 From: East Peoria, IL Registered: Oct 2004 posted 07-20-2009 09:01 PM                        Adam, Doesn't the Roku stream Amazon's whateverthehelltheyoffer TV shows and movies? Can the Xbox 360 also stream Amazon content. I'm not looking to watch whatever Amazon is offering at the moment... For $100, I'm not expecting super high quality on video feed, but I don't want it to look like I'm watching a VHS either. My internet connection pretty darn good. I think I might just get one in the next week or two. I'll report back my thoughts if I do.  |  IP: Logged Adam Martin I'm not even gonna point out the irony. Posts: 3686 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Nov 2000 posted 07-20-2009 10:06 PM                     You might want to check out www.hackingnetflix.com  |  IP: Logged

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