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Robert E. Allen
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Checotah, Oklahoma
Registered: Jul 2002

posted 10-19-2011 10:36 PM

Well guys, here's where we part company. I can find anything I want on DVD and have a perfectly good DVD player. I can't see spending more money on another player simply because the techno-geeks say BR is far superior to DVD and they can be played when you're on the move. It's a bit like digital cinema. BR simply costs less to make and distribute. They can do it without me thank you.

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Chris Slycord
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From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea
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posted 10-19-2011 10:46 PM

Functioning eyes and ears are all you need to tell that blu-ray is better than DVD. It doesn't take being a "techno-geek."

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Mike Blakesley
Film God

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From: Forsyth, Montana
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posted 10-19-2011 10:48 PM

You're wrong on a couple of counts here Robert.

BR doesn't cost less to make. In quantity it costs about the same as DVD.

You can watch DVD on the move too -- that's not an advantage of Blu-Ray.

The biggest advantage of BR is the picture quality, but you can only really see that to best advantage on a bigger TV. Anything under about 20", including all portable devices, the regular DVD will look just fine to the vast majority of folks. Hence the slow adoption of BR by the masses.

Another advantage of BR is there is more room on the disk for extras and things like alternative camera angles, etc. but these features don't seem as if they're really being capitalized on, at least not yet. Which goes back to my previous point that very few people (I shouldn't have said "nobody" before) care much about the extras.

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Ron Funderburg
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From: Chickasha, Oklahoma, USA
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posted 10-31-2011 10:34 AM

DVD is projected to not be around in 7 more years but then maybe BR won't be as a disk format either. They are saying we will download everything in 10 years but I rather doubt it. I think people like owning the disk, I think there is something real to it when you have something to look up in that big cabinet with the br or the many shelves of DVD. We are possession driven society. We love things we can touch, feel, and show off! Just my humble opinion!

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Tom Petrov
Five Guys Lover

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From: El Paso, TX
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posted 10-31-2011 05:09 PM

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They are saying we will download everything in 10 years but I rather doubt it. I think people like owning the disk,

Yes we will be downloading everything in about ten years. Apple TV is so much more convenient than renting or buying the movie. Little kids now who will be much older in 10 years will not care or even know what having a giant library is like. Apple TV and watching movies from your computer is so much more effient than buying the actual disc.

There might still be some blu rays at the stores but that won't matter all that much. Just look at some of the prices now, $5 for some Blu-ray movies.

The studios are already getting people hooked on digital downloads as a copy of digital download is usually avaiable in many discs.

I just recently bought the blu ray of Walking Dead for season one, while it worked just fine...the Season Pass Download from iTunes is so much easier at better.

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Mike Blakesley
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From: Forsyth, Montana
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posted 10-31-2011 06:08 PM

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I think people like owning the disk,

I think old people like you and me, like to own the disk but there is an ever-increasing number of people that is happy to just keep everything in the cloud. Eventually those people will be the majority and then physical media will get a lot more expensive, or disappear completely.

Take "Green Acres" for example. It's one of my favorite old TV shows and I would gladly buy all the DVDs if they were available. But, only half of the seasons (the first 3) have been released. However, you CAN watch the rest of the seasons for free on Hulu.com, or you can buy downloads of them for a Tivo or other device from Amazon.

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Joe Redifer
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From: Denver, Colorado
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posted 10-31-2011 09:14 PM

quote: Tom Petrov
The studios are already getting people hooked on digital downloads as a copy of digital download is usually avaiable in many discs.

You're confusing the so-called "digital copies" with digital downloads. Downloads are something you actually download from Al Gore's internet. As for those things that come with Blu-rays and DVDs, you're simply copying a local file with some shitty encryption to get in the way of everything. They SHOULD come with a code so you can download the movie because I don't like having the useless extra disc. I have never used a "digital copy" and am not sure why I ever would (I hate traveling so there would be no use for it in that situation). I'm perfectly happy with the, um, analog copy that is on DVD and Blu-ray.

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Justin Hamaker
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posted 10-31-2011 09:25 PM

If I'm going to be watching in the comfort of my living room with my 50" TV and BluRay player, I definitely want the disk. But I load the digital downloads on my laptop so I can have them on the road when I would rather not deal with packing disks.

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Bobby Henderson
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From: Lawton, OK, USA
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posted 10-31-2011 10:30 PM

Movies on Apple TV are 100% SHIT. 720p resolution at extremely severe data compression ratios (far worse than how SD DVD is encoded). Only lossy DD audio. Like I said: SHIT.

Blu-ray is only always better than the crap Apple is selling despite the Holy God Al-Mighty friggin' fashionable Apple brand.

Anyone picking movies via Apple TV over that of Blu-ray is either an Apple fanboy whore, an Internet forum troll or a flagrantly stupid idiot.

quote: Justin Hamaker
But I load the digital downloads on my laptop so I can have them on the road when I would rather not deal with packing disks.

It's less of a pain if you have a notebook that can read and write Blu-ray discs, as well as play Blu-ray movies. Unfortunately, Apple is all about seeing things in only one skewed perspective (the so-called cloud). So they deny their customers from using what is BY FAR the highest quality movie playback format in favor of chasing after a philosophy that honestly is 10-15 years before its time. News flash: the Internet and its bandwidth (especially here in the friggin' United States of America) still SUCKS REALLY REALLY BAD. And that in turn MAKES THE CLOUD SUCK REALLY BAD. Just a tiny slight clue to those in that Apple "cloud" camp. The cloud sucks.

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Justin Hamaker
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posted 10-31-2011 11:02 PM

Allow me to rephrase that: I download the digital copies that come with BR discs to my laptop. That way I have movies available to watch whether I have an internet connection or not.

I do not subscribe to or use Apple TV, so I don't know how good it is or is not. However, I do use Netflix streaming and Hulu. Given a fast enough connection - which I have at home, the video quality is very good. It may not make me say "wow" the way the best BluRays do, but it doesn't make me feel like I am watching an inferior product. I would put it about on par with DVD quality.

Most internet connections I've encountered in hotels are not even worth using. While they may start out as high speed, there are so many users that it's worthless for anything requiring any kind of bandwidth.

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Tom Petrov
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From: El Paso, TX
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posted 10-31-2011 11:39 PM

quote: Justin Hamaker
I do not subscribe to or use Apple TV, so I don't know how good it is or is not. However, I do use Netflix streaming and Hulu. Given a fast enough connection - which I have at home, the video quality is very good. It may not make me say "wow" the way the best BluRays do, but it doesn't make me feel like I am watching an inferior product. I would put it about on par with DVD quality.

Like so many have said, it does not make a difference if you watch HD 720 on a small screen. I have a big screen but dont always watch it, I use my laptop a lot. Apple is so convienient and easy.

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Joe Redifer
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From: Denver, Colorado
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posted 11-01-2011 04:56 PM

I am an Apple user and even I refuse to get the shitty Apple TV. Even if it were 1080p, the compression ratio is just shit. The box is not versatile. I use my PS3 for streaming 1080p content downloaded to my Mac. I do use Netflix streaming, but only to watch movies I wouldn't otherwise buy or can't find a Blu-ray of at Redbox. There has been more than one occasion where I watched a movie on Netflix and then bought the Blu-ray.

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Bernie Anderson Jr
Master Film Handler

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From: Woodbridge, New Jersey
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posted 11-01-2011 06:42 PM

Joe,

What Media Server are you using to stream to the PS3 from the Mac? I could never get the PS3 to work properly without jitter and freezing. What file formats can you stream? MKV?

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Bobby Henderson
"Ask me about Trajan."

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From: Lawton, OK, USA
Registered: Apr 2001

posted 11-01-2011 06:52 PM

I'm trying to figure out how to get the PS3 to work properly with my Win 7 notebook via WiFi. It sees the folders I've shared but doesn't want to "see" much less even play the media files in those folders despite the fact it will play the same files when a FAT32 formatted external hard disc is attached directly to the PS3.

Obviously I've missed some sort of simple detail.

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Anslem Rayburn
Master Film Handler

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From: Yuma, AZ, USA
Registered: May 2002

posted 11-03-2011 04:26 AM

Bobby - Under the network and sharing center on your laptop, go to the advanced sharing settings. Make sure that "Media Streaming" is enabled for your current profile.

Apologies if you have already checked this.

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