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Author Topic: Ideas for Home Theater Digital Projector Demetris Thoupis Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1240 From: Aradippou, Larnaca, Cyprus Registered: Apr 2001 posted 09-12-2009 04:50 AM                     Lately I've been installing the Sanyo PLVZ3000 and it is really breathtaking especially in HD. I preview in BluebloodyRay usualy the Fifth Element or Dark Knight and the clients are very impressed by the clarity. It also has much more adjustments than most projectors in image correction e.t.c. It does not have keystone correction but it has a nifty lens shift which works perfectly thus you do not screw up the ratios. Of course if your budget can handle you can go with the Sanyo PLV-HD2000E but that costs a lot. Demetris  |  IP: Logged Damien Taylor Master Film Handler Posts: 493 From: Perth, Western Australia Registered: Apr 2007 posted 09-12-2009 11:30 AM                     If the budget is tight, CRTs still give good bang for buck.  |  IP: Logged Andy Bajew Expert Film Handler Posts: 136 From: Bellaire, Texas Registered: Jun 2009 posted 09-12-2009 12:09 PM                     Demetris- I fell in love with the PLV-HD2000E, looked it up to purchase it and found out Sanyo has officially discontinued selling the model  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 09-12-2009 01:11 PM                     Welcome to Home Video...the PLV-Z3000 is the current king of the hill for them. How many can I put you down for? Steve  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 09-12-2009 01:22 PM                     Might I recommend this quality blu-ray player for your needs?  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-13-2009 12:03 AM                        Brad--is that an actually product? If so, why? I mean, it's more expensive than an HDCAM-SR or D5 deck. I can understand super-expensive turntables and such, but I don't see the advantage of this sort of thing for digital formats. Bits are bits. Do the $200 Blu-ray players really suck that badly at reading the bits off of the disks?  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 09-13-2009 01:29 AM                     No lie...I've see the differences in the picture quality using the exact same disc in different Blu-Ray players playing on DCinema grade projectors...I was rather taken aback myself! I would have thought it wouldn't have made much if any difference but when blown up to 35-40 feet wide...sure enough...the higher end player looked NOTABLY better. Go figure. Steve  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 09-13-2009 01:49 AM                     Ugh. I'm happy with my 80GB PS3 with its 4 USB ports, SACD compatibility and flash card slots. I guess I'll use the other $150,000 on hookers and cocaine in Las Vegas!  |  IP: Logged Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 09-14-2009 10:22 AM                        quote: Steve Guttag when blown up to 35-40 feet wide...sure enough...the higher end player looked NOTABLY better. Yah, but Steve, that might be true for the $2000 units vs. the $200 units. But this isn't just a high-end player -- this is way beyond any of that; this one of those ridiculously priced player designed specifically for that niche market where the targeted buyer is the idiot who will buy a product simply because it is the most expensive. Usually these purchases are ego-driven, usually some endowment-challenged male trying to compensate but buying what no other sane person would buy. Half the stuff in those esoteric, foo-foo audio-videophile stores is marketed just for those filthy rich, DUMB people. Sure, they are only a small slice of the market, but you just sell fewer units and price them so you still make a huge profit anyway. Bottom line, if this stuff was so good, how come professionals don't use them in studios and pro installations? Cause they are frauds. The reason they only need to manufacture 50 of these BluRay players is because they are selling them at $135,000!  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-14-2009 11:43 AM                        quote: Frank Angel if this stuff was so good, how come professionals don't use them in studios and pro installations That's always been my argument against stuff like $100/foot cables. I don't have much knowledge of what recording studios use, but I do know that the guys who do film and TV sound generally use pretty generic good-quality microphone and line-level cables (Belden, Canare, etc.) that can be had for well under $.50/foot. If this stuff is good enough for the people who record the sound, what could possibly justify ultra-high-end cables for one's home stereo? Same thing with movie theatres: even the best houses use inexpensive cables for solar-cell, sound rack, and speaker wiring, yet they sound far better than any home setup with "Monster Cable" this and "audiophile" that. I do find it curious that there is a difference in picture quality among Blu-ray players. I don't have any experience with the format on big screens, though (absolutely no one has ever even asked me about it as a possible screening format; the video people all either want HDCAM or various SD formats).  |  IP: Logged Vern Dias Film Handler Posts: 28 From: AllenTX USA Registered: Apr 2009 posted 09-14-2009 09:41 PM                        I highly reccomend the new JVC projectors. They are the RS15, RS25, and RS35. Priced from roughly $2,500 to $10,000. They are LCOS. Stay away from the Panasonic LCD projectors, the smoothscreen technology seriously softens the image. Vern  |  IP: Logged Demetris Thoupis Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1240 From: Aradippou, Larnaca, Cyprus Registered: Apr 2001 posted 09-18-2009 02:58 PM                     Last time I asked it was special order. I will ask again when I am back in Cyprus but they want some serious money for it. It's over 20K Euro I think although who wouldn't love that. Go for the PLV-Z3000 you will not regret it. EDIT: Sorry for the edit. It might be better to invest in a high contrast screen instead of a high powered HD projector (you won't find much of the last). I installed in my boss home this projector with a Screenhawk SilverScreen High Gain and no light brings the quality down. After all the PLV-Z3000 has a contrast ratio of 65000:1 ! And don't forget that the actual black of the projector is the 'white' of the screen with no light hitting on it. Demetris  |  IP: Logged Andy Bajew Expert Film Handler Posts: 136 From: Bellaire, Texas Registered: Jun 2009 posted 09-18-2009 08:47 PM                     The PLV-Z3000 only has 1200 ANSI lumens. Wouldn't a digital projector being used in a lighted room require 1500 or so lumens to keep the image? I keep looking at the Epson EH-TW5500. If I read everything correct on the summary of it, this projector won't be released for another month. As of now, we are having a wine room built in the house which will require a week or two of work--the media room is the next to be built. Would it be wise to just wait until its release? Also, is it a mistake to purchase a newly released projector for any type of issues that might arise?  |  IP: Logged Demetris Thoupis Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1240 From: Aradippou, Larnaca, Cyprus Registered: Apr 2001 posted 09-19-2009 07:04 AM                     quote: Andy Bajew Wouldn't a digital projector being used in a lighted room require 1500 or so lumens to keep the image? Not necessarily. A High contrast screen will give you the benefit of even hitting a flood light on the screen and still see the image projected. 1200 Ansi is a standard in basic HT projectors. If you are looking for a DLP piece perhaps this Optoma might do the trick at 2000 Ansi. Invest in a High Contrast screen (and don't think hot spots like cinemas silver screens). See also this link. Demetris  |  IP: Logged Julio Roberto Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 938 From: Madrid, Madrid, Spain Registered: Oct 2008 posted 09-19-2009 02:39 PM                    I have good experience with Epson (projectors) when it came to service. They certainly have a lot of experience and long trayectory building lots of projector's models over the years. As you may know, Seiko-Epson are known to be the OEM manufacturers of LCD panels used in many brands of projectors, as well as a manufacturer of optics and optical elements and precission machinery. And printers and watches, of course. Certainly a totally brand-new model may have some bugs or issues with it. Just keep an eye for the early reviews and, if you think they're worth it, it's your choice. You'll have factory warranty for a year anyway, and it's always good to try to see a demo unit by yourself before commiting. Otherwise, I have nothing bad to say about Epson (projection unit) or their service (which I have used), at least in Europe.  |  IP: Logged

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