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Topic: I am thinking of giving the Star Trek films a watch
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Robert Harrison
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From: Harwood Heights, Illinois, USA
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted 03-24-2011 07:59 PM
The thing about "Star Trek 1" is they were rewriting the script every day almost. Then, after they spent 40 million bucks, Paramount suits probably insisted on using every frame of special effects footage to say they got their money's worth, boredom be damned. Then, as happens so many times in motion picture history, they were down to the wire to the release date and had no time to fine tune the editing.
Just for shits and giggles, I once made my own edit of the film from a laserdisc to VHS and got the running time down to 100 minutes. This was accomplished mostly by leaving out the entire Enterprise flyover from early in the film and cutting out all the "awe-inspiring" footage of the Enterprise flying through the Space Cloud enveloping V-Ger's ship while everybody on the bridge stared at the viewscreen like they had never seen anything similar in all their years of space exploration.
Here's a deleted scene:
Nomad was the name of a space probe from an episode titled "The Changeling" which, although not gigantic, it was similarly misinformed about mankind and was heading back to Earth to find it's Creator.
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Bobby Henderson
"Ask me about Trajan."
Posts: 10973
From: Lawton, OK, USA
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 03-25-2011 03:00 PM
One of the biggest topics I remember being discussed about Star Trek: The Motion Picture when it was originally released: the bald headed woman.
Sang to the tune of the Bee Gee's hit, More Than A Woman:
"Bald headed woman"
"You look bald headed to me."
With hair, Indian actress Persis Khambatta was really quite beautiful. According to IMDB she was Miss India in 1965 and worked as a fashion model. Too bad she died of a heart attack 1998 at the age of only 49.
I never cared for Star Trek: The Motion Picture. I agree with ![[joe]](graemlins/joe.gif) that it tried too hard to copy the tone of 2001 and count on viewers being familiar with lots of Star Trek lore.
I liked the II, III and IV installments, although IV pushed its luck with the campy stuff. Those three movies were written and paced better. ILM did the visual effects work, which was substantially better than those in the first movie. Not surprisingly Paramount sells a Blu-ray set of those three films packaged together. III was the lesser film out of that trilogy, but it was still pretty damned cool when they blew up the Enterprise.
I absolutely hated Star Trek V. Oh man that movie sucked. And the visual effects were a big downgrade from the previous three films. ILM reportedly was swamped with work for the third Indiana Jones movie and Ghostbusters II. So the work was given to Bran Ferren and Associates. They lacked many of ILM's capabilities and apparently were given a lot less time to produce the work. In trying to be fast and cheap the visuals in the movie often sucked.
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country was a better movie, but not really great either.
I couldn't really get into the "next generation cast" movies all that well. They had this odor of too many producers being involved so the movies could never do anything actually new and interesting. They just cribbed a few vague things from the TV series and blew it up larger. Star Trek: The Next Generation was much more interesting as a TV series. I think it hit its high point with Captain Pickard being abducted by the Borg and used to annihilate the Federation Fleet.
I didn't like the most recent Star Trek movie from J.J. Abrams. It had very good production values and visuals, but the movie felt like it had little to no connection at all with the previous movies or TV series -particularly with some of the liberties taken with the story line. Like so many recent action movies it seemed designed for people hopped up on speed or something.
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