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Bobby Henderson
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Still, 4K is not quite like 8K or 16K depths more appropriate for IMAX. I remember all the jaggie titles from "Fantasia 2000" which was partly to blame over a 4K res.

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Adam Martin
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The AR for Apollo 13 is about 1.66.

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Paul Konen
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TheForce.Net reports that the IMAX Version is to be 23 minutes shorter so that it can fit on most IMAX Platters.

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John Pytlak
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Paul Konen wrote: "TheForce.Net reports that the IMAX Version is to be 23 minutes shorter so that it can fit on most IMAX Platters."

Is that enough to COMPLETELY get rid of Jar-Jar Binks?

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Brad Miller
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Oh man, they sure would sell a LOT of tickets if it did!

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Ben Wales
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Was it not the aim and vision of the pioneers of 15/70 Imax, was the shooting and screening the process at special designed Imax Theatres? or am I living in the past that the public will flock in to see Digital blow ups of cinema movies that you can get on DVD at the local Blockbuster Video store?.

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Bernard Tonks
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Paul Konen wrote: "TheForce.Net reports that the IMAX Version is to be 23 minutes shorter so that it can fit on most IMAX Platters."

Pasted from a UK Forum on STAR BORES.

STAR WARS: EPISODE II - ATTACK OF THE CLONES is getting the IMAX treatment, but it looks like the film will also be getting a running time "haircut." The maximum 120-minute capacity for most IMAX platter systems dictates a cut of 23 minutes from the original release of the film's 143-minute running length.

It might just be watchable if they cut 120 mins out and left you with 23mins...!



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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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Maybe half the theatres will get the 23 minute versions.
The best way to edit it would probably be to skip the first seven reels.


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Dave Williams
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Here is to address a few issues regarding the imax release, and also to bring up a few.

First, ILM has been working on the IMAX version for months now. The conversion will be better than the original one. Hopefully that's a good thing.

Second, and here is my question, regarding the cut to 120 minutes. DigiLucas had announced that new scenes would be added to the IMAX version. If that is still true, just how much of the film will be missing?

Could we lose the following characters..

Jar Jar Binks,
Anakin Skywalker (only when he is whining like a baby),
and anyone NOT fighting with a light saber or blowing up stuff...

Dave

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Brad Miller
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Since it is digital, perhaps NOTHING will be lost, but Lucas will time compress the existing movie and cram in more scenes with a total run time of 120 minutes.

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John Pytlak
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Brad said: "Since it is digital, perhaps NOTHING will be lost, but Lucas will time compress the existing movie and cram in more scenes with a total run time of 120 minutes."

Digital, Smidigital. Theatre owners did that with silent films by simply running the projector faster.

BTW: Anyone notice how many more radio ads now use digital pitch-shifting to fit more information into commercials, especially for legal disclaimers (e.g., contest rules, cell phone plan "fine print")? No one can talk that fast! Talk about "information overload", thanks to digital technology.
http://www.real-image.com/audio/others/purepit.asp
http://www.etro.vub.ac.be/Research/DSSP/dssp.htm
http://www.dspdimension.com/html/timepitch.html

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Paul Konen
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Very Nice John !

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Thomas Procyk
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How long before the Digital activists crawl out of their comfortably-ignorant woodwork and shout that if "IMAX was Digital and not on Film, Lucas could have fit the whole movie AND added scenes to it..."

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Paul Linfesty
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How long before the Digital activists crawl out of their comfortably-ignorant woodwork and shout that if "IMAX was Digital and not on Film, Lucas could have fit the whole movie AND added scenes to it..."

OK, I'll bite:

If IMAX was Digital and not on Film, Lucas could have fit the whole movie AND added scenes to it.

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John Pytlak
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Paul Linfesty wrote: "If IMAX was Digital and not on Film, Lucas could have fit the whole movie AND added scenes to it."

If you had a higher resolution image to start with, a larger capacity server for digital projection would be just as much needed as a larger platter for film. Whether it's an image on film, or data in a server, higher resolution and better image quality will take more space. The image carrying capacity of a 70mm IMAX print far exceeds any current digital cinema format. For that matter, so does a 35mm print.

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