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Paul Linfesty
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quote: Frank Angel
Granted, it may have been different other places in the country, but in my town, THE ROBE opened in all the Century theatres at once.
So you're strictly talking about the neighborhood engagements that followed the first-run exclusive engagement at the Roxie (which scored an impressive $350,000 (approximate) gross in its first week). Typically, the New York burroughs (and neighborhoods of Manhattan) wouldn't get films until after their first-run engagements). I'm sure Michael Coate can supply the actual data here if I'm wrong. (The only other engagements I'm familiar with were the Fox (California) in SJ (same Nov 6 opening as Bakersfield) and the Hollywood premiere at the Chinese (being joined later by a day-and-date with the Downtown Los ANgeles Theatre).

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Carl Martin
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quote: Frank Angel
On the other hand if you wanted to see THE ROBE, you HAD to see it in CinemaScope.
...unless you saw the version shot concurrently in the academy ratio.

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Frank Angel
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quote: Carl Martin
...unless you saw the version shot concurrently in the academy ratio.
I was under the impression that the flat shoot was only a backup and that unit was shut down once they were convinced that the scope version had no major problems. I didn't think a flat version was actually ever released. If it did play in that flat format, I would imagine it wasn't in first run houses or in the major cities. And how embarassing for the theatre that had to remove all references to CinemaScope from ads and one sheets, given that the Fox publicity machine linked THE ROBE and CinemaScope as almost one and the same thing.

Anyone know if a flat version was actually completed and played anywhere? Wouldn't THAT be a historically significant print to screen today?! [thumbsup]

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Paul Linfesty
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quote: Frank Angel
Anyone know if a flat version was actually completed and played anywhere?
I think I read somewhere the flat version was completed but only played on TV, at least in the U.S. There are a number of examples of other scope films that were also shot in flat (with a few actualy getting released in the U.S. (i.e. The Command and maybe one or two other WB titles). Still others (such as Brigadoon, Seven Brides for Seven Brothers) were shot both ways, but U.S. distribution was limited to CS only, with some foreign territories getting an option.

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Michael Coate
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Anyone know if a flat version was actually completed and played anywhere? Wouldn't THAT be a historically significant print to screen today?!
There were trade reports that the Academy version of "The Robe" was reduced to 16mm and made available to non-theatrical venues such as churches and schools.

I wish these alternately shot versions would be included as a supplement on the DVD, but with an exception or two ("Seven Brides For Seven Brothers" comes to mind) the studios seem to be clueless about what's in their vaults or they're too cost-conscious to go to the trouble. As an example, Disney's latest 2-disc collector's edition of "Lady And The Tramp" (a film recognized as having been shot twice) includes both the scope widescreen version and a 1.33:1 version, except that the 1.33 version is a pan-and-scan job from scope. [Mad]

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Paul Linfesty
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The first NYC neighborhood theatre release (following the Roxie's exclusive engagement) began on December 25,1953. Don't know about the outer burroughs, but all the Manhattan nabes opening it were only closed for one day (December 24) prior to the opening. The theatres were: Academy of Music, RKO 58th Street, RKO 86th Street, RKO 23rd Street, Riverside, Nemo, and Coliseum.

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