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Darryl Spicer
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 - posted 03-13-2002 05:57 PM      Profile for Darryl Spicer     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Have you ever had anyone say that they prefer to listen to certain music on vinal rather than CD's. Well one big reason is that when they make an analog source into a digital source they cut out some of the high and low frequencies in order to save space and use less compresion. They say sometimes when this is done either to much is taken away or other frequencies are effected.

So in order to save space and compresion for movies what is exactly missing that may be seen with normal projected film.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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 - posted 03-13-2002 07:47 PM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Daryl,
I think what you meant to say is that the sampling rate is too low on CD's. Thats what actually causes the change(among other things) in sound when transfering from analog to digital(CD in this case). The CD format encompases the full 20 to 20khz spectrum with out loss in that area. Another problem is actually the extremely steep filters that are required on the output of the D to A's. This limits the upper response to 20khz and cuts out all harmoics and overtones. Loosing all this info is what makes the biggest audible difference. With the advent of DVD Audio and SACD this is no longer a problem. Response of DVD Audio disks goes out to 40khz in its worst form. Even higher at 192khz sampling. Dynamic range comming out of the player is now greater than any home system is capable of reprodicing, around 130 DB!
Mark @ GTS

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John Pytlak
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 - posted 03-13-2002 09:09 PM      Profile for John Pytlak   Author's Homepage   Email John Pytlak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Bobby Henderson said: "This digital=perfect crap has to stop already. I think that marketing phenomenon is allowing the digital projection sales people and fanboys to be lazy and not forcing them to develop an actual superior product."

Kodak believes in "Digital Done Right" and is developing "superior products" with a systems approach:
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/digital/reality.shtml
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/digital/system.shtml


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