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Topic: Lack of Concern for DLP?
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Adam Martin
I'm not even gonna point out the irony.

Posts: 3686
From: Dallas, TX
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 05-26-2003 11:04 PM
This guy may or may not be an idiot, as I didn't actually have time to read this whole thing.
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DIGITAL CINEMA: WHY BOTHER?
Friday, May 23, 2003 DIGITAL CINEMA: WHY BOTHER? -- Well, the answer to that is easy: Money. The studios will save a fortune several times over when cinemas changeover from photochemical film-based exhibition to digital presentations. When you consider the economics of widely-released films -- the only films that bring in the kind of money that keeps the machine running -- the cost benefits of NOT having to strike 8500 prints (U.S. theatrical, alone) of THE MATRIX are evident. But digital projection isn't here yet, because the technology isn't affordable, or, better put, no one wants to pay for it. The cinema owners understand who will benefit and figure it's up to the studios to make the changeover economically feasible. The studios, naturally, want to shift the burden to the exhibitors, but also correctly point to anti-trust issues they cannot circumvent in re-equipping theaters. (Read the consent decree.)
But none of those practical issues will matter to audiences by the time digital cinema becomes a reality. How do we know this? First, because theater owners are the last to catch up with cinema innovations, with the studios in hot pursuit. Remember Dolby Stereo? Not Dolby Digital, but Dolby STEREO. There are still mono theaters in the U.S. They are in ever-dwindling numbers, granted, but this is after -- what? -- 26 YEARS? Not only that, but the level of audio performance in most people's living room far exceeded that in commercial cinema until Lucasfilm's THX came along. Theater owners not only fought stereo sound, but once they relented, they often opted for cheesy FAKE stereo sound, most often surround decoders that let them keep mono audio upfront, behind the screen, and add a mono surround track for a few bucks. There were also phone Dolby decoders theater magnates could buy, too. "Ultra Stereo" was the poor man's Dolby and a widely accepted substitute that exhibitors could tout without the Dolby trademark.
But the point is that the entire world was in stereo before most theaters were. And the same thing is going to happen to pictures. Already, digital DVDs, projected on home cinema front projectors (as opposed to those awful black box rear screens) offer performance that's quite competitive with 35 mm film on small screens. And, by "small," I mean screens less than fifteen feet wide. So, for anywhere from $2500 to $10,000 and enough room in your home, you can basically much of the benefit of digital cinema systems that are still three to ten years off. When high-definition DVD finally becomes available, there will be no practical difference between the home and cinema experiences, save for the availability of first-run films and a crowd big enough to offer the mass-viewing emotional boost. Don't have the room or the money? Don't worry, digital projectors are making their way into corporate meeting rooms, church basements and every bar and restaurant that has cable or satellite TV. By the time cinemas go digital, the rest of the world will have already done so. It will be about as exciting as stereo sound is today, which is to say not in the least.
As far as I can tell, this is completely lost on the studios and exhibitors, who often act as though they have a death wish anyway.
So how can digital cinema make a difference? By fundamentally changing the rules of cinema, for one thing. Today, a movie is two hours long and plays for one week to six months. The movie you see on the last night in the theaters is the same as the one that opened, weeks or months earlier. By the time it gets to DVD, it has miraculously transformed, quite often, into a "special edition," sometimes with new footage, a director's commentary track and "extras," that extra footage that offers a reason to buy the film, though not necessarily to watch it.
But why should a film stay the same throughout its run? Why can't directors change things before it gets to DVD? That's what happens during the run of a Broadway play; creators constantly tweak a production to make it play better in front of the audience. How many film directors do you think would like to do this? Okay, none that have hit movies, but I'm sure there are plenty of filmmakers with flops on their hands that would love a shot at this.
How about dynamic recasting? Why not have alternative versions of the film with alternative casts that might replace the original cast halfway through a film's run? (Naturally, both casts would need to be shot at the same time.) Or alternative rated versions? This causes howls of protest when it's proposed by moralistic watchdogs, but what if the filmmaker and studio marketing types prepare versions specifically designed for different audiences? Alternate endings? Forget the debacle with "Clue" in the 1980s. This is an idea that has yet to be fully explored.
Or why not, for that matter, just move those ultimate fan editions that only get DVD release into theaters to stimulate repeat viewings or pick up boxoffice late in the run? Short film programs work in digital cinemas, where the program can change frequently without incurring great expense. Heck, we may even see the return of the newsreel or other non-fiction short films with the advent of digital.
One awful omen is already visible on the horizon, however. My favorite multiplex has installed digital video projectors -- just standard definition NTSC projectors -- that they feed with DVDs running local ads in the interstitial time between shows. Not only is the presentation awful, but these ads are a constant reminder that someone will pay for every minute of a captive audience's time. Will the advertising assault on movie audiences ever end? And will screen ads in the U.S. ever attain the escape velocity necessary to elevate the mundane to either art or entertainment worthy of an audience's attention? If they can't, then theater owners better quickly learn that they are a turn-off that will drive audiences back to their homes, where advertising can be eliminated with a touch of the remote control.
Finally, theater owners dream of turning their cinemas into some kind of multi-use venues that can accommodate corporate confabs, big public meetings, religious services and more, once you can put a movie-quality program (that's not a movie) on the screen. Alas, someone should pop this dreamy balloon right now. With a surplus of digital projection, from homes to classrooms, cinemas won't have anything more to offer than a bigger room and some hot popcorn when the technology makes this possible. Still, one would hope that adventurous show people (if there are such people any longer) would respond to the challenge of bringing theater, performances, sports and new genres of public spectacle to these new digital cinemas. These are, I think, all possible with a little imagination.
Right. But that's the hook isn't it?
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Jack Ondracek
Film God

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From: Port Orchard, WA, USA
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 05-27-2003 12:26 AM
quote: from Adam: "But digital projection isn't here yet, because the technology isn't affordable, or, better put, no one wants to pay for it. The cinema owners understand who will benefit and figure it's up to the studios to make the changeover economically feasible."
Adam, with all due respect, I don't think this is the point. As is well established here, the digital image is not as good as film. Digital is not as reliable as film. Digital is not universally compatible, as is film. The studios do not universally embrace any one process that an exhibitor can rely on to receive, and run all product that is currently available on... FILM!... and all that's before we get anywhere near discussing the cost of installation, maintenance and amortization.
With current saturation bookings, today's first-run houses don't have a print long enough to wear it out, bad handling and accidents notwithstanding, so presentation degradation with time isn't a tremendously serious issue (sorry, George!).
There are no practical, economic, esthetic, business or tax advantages to apply digital in its current incarnation. Simply put; there presently is no assumable return to be realized by investing in a booth full of digital projection equipment. It's too simplistic to say that exhibitors just don't want to pay for it. It's more that nobody's nuts enough to pay that kind of money for something that's not half as good as today's film technology, and won't last nearly as long. Articles, recently referenced by John P. provide ample evidence that digital has a long, long way to go before it has a chance of equalling, if not besting the economic and presentation baselines that currently exist with film technology. The only point that can be given digital right now is that its last performance should be equal to its first... meaning that it'll still look as original as its technology allows, 3 weeks into a title's run, when audiences have dwindled to nothing.
As Daryl aptly puts it... digital isn't much more than a gimmick... at least right now.. and an extraordinarily expensive one at that. The industry does not have the right to point fingers at exhibitors. They don't have anything to sell... and if we're smart, we'll resist the studios' effort to downgrade the average (excellent), everyday image resolution we now enjoy with film, in order to make digital "fit in the box".
As for our reluctance to blithely jump on the current bandwagon: I've seen and worked in an abundance of theatres, where exhibitors had invested in the latest fad (several kinds of 3D, 35mm mag, etc.) where it's doubtful that boxoffice performance ever resulted in justifying the investment in equipment. There were booths all over the country that had installed selsyn motors, control circuitry, lenses, polarizing filters and beefed-up (or additional) generators/rectifiers for 3D... even more with racks full of amplifiers, pre-amps, penthouses, various sundry control electroncs, and stage and surround speakers for mag-stereo that were only used a handful of times before the STUDIOS stopped supporting the technology that they had convinced the exhibitors were absolutely necessary for their financial survival.
Exhibitors, while maybe a bit overly cautious (and sometimes downright cheap), aren't exactly "raking it in" right now. They also have the potential to be a lot more savvy than in years past, now that many of them have their own technical departments and aren't tossing all responsibility for the booth to service companies like the former RCA and Altec divisions.
When it's time... when/if the ducks all line up, it'll happen. Until then, there's no point to slinging mud. The system's just not ready for prime-time mainstream deployment. [ 05-27-2003, 01:40 AM: Message edited by: Jack Ondracek ]
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Paul Konen
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 981
From: Frisco, TX. (North of Dallas)
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 06-16-2003 01:44 PM
Scott, DLP will probably never replace the type of material that you present. (I don't exactly know so I am making an assumption here). The costs of doing digital conversion for an independent may just be too great to swallow.
On the other hand, Digital will slowly make inroads into theatres. There are alot of issues to work out between exhibitors, distributors, vendors, etc in regards to Digital Cinema. As I have stated before, there are true film people who will never be satisfied with D-Cinema in any form or fashion. They will always find something to bitch about. The manufactures know what their limitations are, and are working to fix these.
Recently, I had a call from a gentlemen in Austin calling to see what was going to be on DLP as he wanted to plan his vacation accordingly. I have met others who travel from Oklahoma, Arlington, Fort Worth just to see the DLP presentations.
Agreed with others that Nemo is a good film and based upon scheduling and other factors, the DLP house may have done better than the film houses. (I don't know how mine did.)
One thing to think about, if the directors and studios are satisfied with the results of D-Cinema, and with the coming of the 2K chips, then why hasn't it (D-cinema) stopped altogether. You would think that they are just as concerned about the things that others in this forum bring up.
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