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Author Topic: Lack of Concern for DLP? Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-28-2003 10:44 AM                        John--is there any chance of getting some pics of the Theatre on the Ridge for the F-T gallery? It sounds like a great venue.  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-28-2003 12:03 PM                     Charles said "Instead of hyping Ah-nold Warner Bros. should have pushed the DLP runs -- "See T3 in DLP!"" Why say anything like that all it does is hype the technology not the movie and the technology regretably at best is still inferior to most 35mm presentations If anything the intrest in DMR proves audience interest is in very large screen presentations that are bright and sharp not pixelated murk  |  IP: Logged Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 06-28-2003 04:49 PM                        Alan said: "We live in the "Imaging Capital " of the world butI find it depressing how far behind we are here in Rochester in regards to complete lack of any digital presentation other than what takes place behind closed doors at Kodak" Don't be depressed -- you are not missing anything. It is better that the exhibitors in your area wait until that time when the digital technology REALLY offers something better than film, rather than invest now in a technology that has no standards, is proprietary, and already is 3 generations away from the first DLP installations. At least if ever a time comes when Deeee-Cinema can offer something tangible to the movie-goer -- improvements in picture and/or sound, hopefully that's when Rochester exhibitors may make the jump. Right now they are very wise to wait. And believe me, your itch to see what a digital image looks like may fulfill your curiosity, but it certainly will not impress you enough to come back to the specific theatre which installed it (it may even drive you away). It's not the giant technology leaps taken before in cinema history that enraptured audiences and made them flock to theatres like B&W to color, or Academy ratio to CinemaScope or mono optical to multitrack mag sound. About the most you can say about digital cinema is, well, it's not film. Frank And PS -- Kodak is very wise to hold off going public with their digital work. They seem to be holding off until they can make it better and with an economic model that actually works. With fewer than 100 installations here in the US, it doesn't look like Kodak has to worry about loosing any market share by waiting. PPS -- So of those 100 installations, how many were part of that outright gift that Technicolor was supposed to have given to select markets as "seed" installations? Weren't they supposed to giving away 1000 Christie units? Well, if only 100 sites now have DLP, doesn't that mean that Technicolor couldn't even GIVE away 9900 projectors for free? Maybe if they PAID exhibitors to install them......  |  IP: Logged Paul Linfesty Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1383 From: Bakersfield, CA, USA Registered: Nov 1999 posted 06-28-2003 05:57 PM                     quote: Instead of hyping Ah-nold Warner Bros. should have pushed the DLP runs -- "See T3 in DLP!" I'm sure by opening day display ads will be doing just that. The MANN Theatre directory ads list Terminator 3 as being in "Digital Projection!" at their Chinese Hoolywood, Village Westwood and Glendale locations. No mention of Ahnold in the directories.  |  IP: Logged Larry Zuverink Film Handler Posts: 98 From: Caledonia, MI, USA Registered: Nov 2002 posted 06-30-2003 01:24 PM                     I think we can all agree that DLP is nothing more than a marketing gimmick right now. If you are in a large town and can afford the $150,000 to put it in one screen under your marketing budget, you'll have it. If not you won't. Until the Distributors install the projector (They are the only ones saving money with it) film is here to stay.  |  IP: Logged Paul Konen Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 981 From: Frisco, TX. (North of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 07-06-2003 01:04 AM                     Because it was brought up, I thought I would post some numbers Tue - Special Showings (DLP and Film Prints 2 shows each) 8 total. DLP - 517 Print A - 159 Print B - 144 Print C - 138 Wed - All prints run at least 5x/day DLP - 1434 Print A - 547 Print B - 516 Print C - 609 Thu DLP - 1288 Print A - 521 Print B - 544 Print C - 687 Fri - 1466 Print A - 535 Print B - 690 Print C - 636 Those in Dallas can confirm that our theatre ad lists the time both separately and with the regular title. DLP Consistently outsold every film print. It had the first show of each round, so it didn't even get the best time like 30 or 60 minutes into the round. I know this doesn't really prove anything but thought some of you might be curious to see numbers. Paul  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 07-06-2003 11:45 AM                        Paul: Was the seating capacity of the four auditoriums the same? Same screen size? All digital sound?  |  IP: Logged Ian Price Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1714 From: Denver, CO Registered: Jun 99 posted 07-06-2003 11:50 AM                     Using Paul's Numbers: Tue - Special Showings (DLP and Film Prints 2 shows each) 8 total. DLP - 517 Film - 441 Wed - All prints run at least 5x/day DLP - 1434 Film - 1,672 Thu DLP - 1288 Film - 1,752 Fri DLP - 1466 Film - 1,861 Playing with numbers can be fun. If your advertising said 'Come see it in DLP' or 'Come see in Digital', then of course there were more people at the DLP showings. That and the fact that there were three film prints also skewed the numbers. I think you would have to have two identical theatres across the street from on another with one saying "Come see it in Digital DLP" and one saying "See it on Glorious Film in TXH" for there to be a fair comparison.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 07-06-2003 11:53 AM                     Yeah, like anyone is going to know what TXH means...heck I don't even know what it means...tell us Ian, what does it mean? Steve  |  IP: Logged Dave Macaulay Film God Posts: 2321 From: Toronto, Canada Registered: Apr 2001 posted 07-06-2003 01:11 PM                     It's supposedly taken from THX-1138, George's first feature which apparently was based on a USC student film he was involved with. That cheats a bit though, as the film name must have come from somewhere, no? General concensus is that THX is for "Tomlinson Holman's Experiment" and Tomlinson Holman indeed had a lot to do with the THX sound system theory and specifications. He is still working in cinema sound at USC and has a company http://www.tmhlabs.com/ involved with studio and home theatre audio.  |  IP: Logged Paul Mayer Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under! Posts: 3836 From: Albuquerque, NM Registered: Feb 2000 posted 07-06-2003 01:26 PM                        TXH is the dyslexic version of THX featuring screen and surround channels wired R-L instead of L-R. Designed for left-handed people who are in their right minds.  |  IP: Logged Nicholas Roznovsky Expert Film Handler Posts: 156 From: College Station, TX, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 07-06-2003 01:59 PM                        It's a common misconception that TXH is just a sound system. TXH applies to the entire presentation - the audio AND the visual. Not only are the speakers wired opposite, the film is also flipped so the image is mirrored on screen. (This tends to wreak havoc on sound readers, but hey - that's the cost of progress.) TXH - Listening is Audience The.  |  IP: Logged Ian Price Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1714 From: Denver, CO Registered: Jun 99 posted 07-06-2003 02:07 PM                     .cixelsid ylthgils m'I ,ti timda I ,kO  |  IP: Logged Charles Everett Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1470 From: New Jersey Registered: May 2001 posted 07-06-2003 02:37 PM                     In Manhattan the UA Union Square and Loews Kips Bay get to open Pirates of the Caribbean in DLP. Union Square's DLP shows of Finding Nemo end Tuesday.  |  IP: Logged Paul Linfesty Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1383 From: Bakersfield, CA, USA Registered: Nov 1999 posted 07-06-2003 10:06 PM                     El Capitan in Hollywood shows Pirates in DLP as well.  |  IP: Logged

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