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Evans A Criswell
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From: Huntsville, AL, USA
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 - posted 04-18-2001 10:51 AM      Profile for Evans A Criswell   Author's Homepage   Email Evans A Criswell   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
We did not have a "golden oldies" FM station here in Huntsville until we got one of those network satellite-fed deals. For the first few months, it was obvious that it was not a local station and the attempts to give it a local flavor were laughable. Over time, it has become much more "local-flavored" to the point that it is difficult to distinguish from real local stations.

The 50s and 60s oldies are my favorite music, and although I hate to see local radio stations swallowed up by national networks, in this case, I'm glad that it allowed us to have a 50s and 60s rock station. It is what I listen to 90 precent of the time in the car, which is the only time I listen to radio.

About TV: I'd like to see TV return to the days of pictures not corrupted by logos, with fewer commercials. I'm so spoiled by watching movies in theatres and DVDs that I'm spoiled and hate the interruptions in TV programs and the stupid logos. If HDTV is going to have the logos, what is the point? Why even bother with it?

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Jerry Chase
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Radio is alive and kicking in Miami. The division between spanish language, creole, and various flavors of english programming keeps things hopping. There was a big stink a while back because a major corporation bought the classical music station. (Yes, Miami has a COMMERCIAL classical station!) The listeners were so affluent, and the market share was so high, that it was NOT turned into another clone, but kept on an all classics format, with listeners reporting back to advertisers that they heard them on WTMI. There is hope for radio, although car MP3 players will make a big dent.

As for tv, things look much grimmer. It takes a lot more money to operate a tv station than a radio station. In the 1970s my dad built an FM station for a startup company that was building a tv station, the FM being just an add-on to maximize employees and the prime antenna location. Within a year, it became obvious that the tv was going down the tubes, but the radio station was raking in huge amounts of advertisng dollars with minimal costs. Eventually the tv station died and the radio station changed hands.

The combination of satellite, cable, Tivo, and the net will kill local broadcast. For example, I get fast news via the net, skip EVERY commercial on tv by using Tivo, and watch maybe an hour of local tv a week, max. I'm not the average viewer, but the quality of local tv is worse than the sleaziest theatre around, and only the poor and uneducated are continuing to put up with it. They make terrible customers for anyone but Miss Cleo.

BTW, those logos are called bugs, IIRC. Bravo had it's bug right over the subtitles on a recent showing of "Wild Strawberries." Now THAT is brilliant management.


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Jeff Stricker
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We probably ought to be lamenting the demise of local broadcasting on some other forum, but it seems these comments are applicable to the film presentation industry as well. Just a couple more thoughts on all this and I'll go back to sleep. Satellite delivery of national programs and "hosts" - YUCK. And digial radio via satellite is here now (if it can be economically viable, still remains to be seen).

It is indeed unfortunate to see local radio go away - the familiar voice that rode with you to work and back again, talked TO YOU and played the tunes of the day on your kitchen radio, commented on music, the local sports teams, etc. This kind of thing can only be found nowadays on the big 50 KW "full service" satations such as WGN in Chicago. I'm 140 miles away from their transmitter, but put up with power line noise, thunderstorm static, and you name it just to hear real live people with something interesting to say.

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Dave Bird
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I HATE the damn bugs! Especially when you have a Canadian network showing an American broadcast and they "paste" one overtop but you can still see it. Also hate watching sports now with the score and time permanently pasted there. This is for lazy people who don't pay attention, if you are you'd know the score! Don't even ask about those fake blimps and billboards that AREN'T EVEN THERE, they are the worst.

When I was taking a Radio/TV/Film course years ago, our radio setup was an old one ripped from a real station who'd upgraded. We learned to cue LP's on the double-turntable, commercials on the carts, big ol' mixing boards, just like WKRP! There was work to do. Talking to a buddy the other day, was saying that alot of radio is SO automated now, everything is on computer, and it's actually the computer that CUES THE ANNOUNCER what's coming up so he can chirp in then wait for the next one. Now that sounds pretty dull, doesn't it?

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Phil Connolly
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Digital TV in the UK is being pushed quite heavily, and there is goining to be a definte switch off date for analogue. When 90% of the population have a digital reciver the governement is going to subsidise the final 10%. The area of the spectrum taken up by analogue TV can be then sold on to celluar phone companies.

On the HDTV front at the moment nobody in Europe is really pushing it, 16:9 (1.78) standard definition PAL transmissions are considered good enough.


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Greg Mueller
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"Bugs"
One time on "The Simpsons" Homer tore the Fox bug off the screen and stomped on it. Loved it
Around Seattle in the 50s it was pretty neat to watch local programming (well, that's all there was) everything was done pretty much live and the bloopers and mistakes were pretty funny. We had about 4 stations and each had its own kid's show hosted by their own version of Buffalo Bob. Most of the jokes I wouldn't get for a number of years (as they were between the stagehands and "the star") I really miss those unpolished days. Now its all glitz and sensationalism. Shades of the National Inquirer

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Greg Mueller
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