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Ramon Lamarca Marques
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 186
From: Edgware, England, UK
Registered: Feb 2006

posted 06-24-2007 05:00 AM

quote: Ron Curran
it should be noted that people are still plonking down a premium price to watch a 40 minute doco that, as a flat 35mm support, would send most of the audience out to the candy bar.

This is so true!

There is an equation I would be very interested to find the solution for.

We take the best TV set from the 1960s and compare it to the best TV set nowadays.

Then we take the best film system from the sixties (Todd-AO?) and try to find what kind of system we should be seeing now at the pictures if cinema had evolved as much as TV in quality. I think the result of that equation is what we should be seeing in cinemas these days, since this is not what we are seeing, no wonder people are deserting cinemas.

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Michael Coate
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1904
From: Los Angeles, California
Registered: Feb 2001

posted 06-24-2007 11:37 PM

Pacific's The Grove in L.A. now appears to have 4K Digital Projection and is showing "Ocean's 13" using that system.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
Resident Trollmaster

Posts: 16657
From: Music City
Registered: Jun 99

posted 06-25-2007 08:43 AM

quote: Bobby Henderson
I don't know. I'm concerned that as demand falls for 35mm film prints, the cost of those prints for those who still need them could increase radically.

Not being in the buisness why would you be concerned?

quote: Bobby Henderson
4K isn't superior to 35mm.

How do you know? In reality none of us know if it is or isn't...

quote: Bobby Henderson
Lack of demand is one of the primary reasons why 70mm film prints are so ridiculously expensive. The labs have to tool up for that unique film gauge and then only run off only a limited number of prints, or even just a mere handful.

Thats one of the more rediclous statements I've ever read on this site!! Labs don't tool up to make 70mm prints.... there is but one lab left in this country that specializes in doing 65/70mm any more. Imax is whats kept them in the 70mm buisness and the price.... well, about the same as it was back in the 80's if you figure in the dollar devaluation and slight increase in film stock cost. What killed 70mm? The suits that run distribution that only have their eyes on the bottom line and not on quality, nothing else.

quote: Bobby Henderson
They can reap huge visual dividends by filming in formats like VistaVision and 5/65mm.

Nice try but a Studio's dividends go Ka-ching every time a ticket is sold. And thats the way it is.....

Mark

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David Stambaugh
Film God

Posts: 4021
From: Eugene, Oregon
Registered: Jan 2002

posted 06-25-2007 02:05 PM

Everyone seems to forget or conveniently ignore the fact that a typical 35mm release print, even a "good" one, isn't anything like a show print or EK print or whatever. It's a futile exercise to compare 4K to showprints or 35mm camera negatives because nobody in the real world ever gets to see that level of quality. The only issue that matters in the vast majority of cinemas is whether 4K (or even 2K) is as good as or better than typical "good" 35mm prints. In my limited viewing experience, 2K looks better than most 35mm prints, at least on a typical screen and from a reasonable viewing distance. At least "Fantastic 4 Silver Surfer" did. And 4K can only be better than that.

70mm film is not going to stage a comeback. 35mm film's days are numbered.

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