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Author Topic: Silver 3d paint? Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 04-16-2010 11:37 PM                     If the screen is defective I bet they will replace it for you although you may have to use that screen until the replacement arrives. My experience has always been that MDI is the best, then Harkness. Hurley and Big Sky (Old technikote) are companies one doesn't even consider buying from any longer. In fact I installed a couple of Big Sky matte white screens late last year and they were absolute crap, so far they have not stood behind them either. I replaced both of those with MDI. Hurleys printing process isn't worth a crap either and is extremely inconsistent. Initial reports on the new Chinese screen are very positive. They bake the silver coating on somehow and one person I know that got a sample recently said he couldn't scratch it off rubbing his fingernail down the surface. They have also been approved by Real-D which puts things through a fairly rigerous qualification. Neither Hurley or Big Sky screens are approved by DCI nor will they be in their present form. Mark  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 04-17-2010 07:24 AM                     There is also Severtson, now approved for Real-D.  |  IP: Logged Martin McCaffery Film God Posts: 2481 From: Montgomery, AL Registered: Jun 99 posted 04-17-2010 10:41 AM                        quote: Jonathan Smith I thought society had already reached a consensus that "3D" was the new catch phrase, not "digital." Pretty sure the marketeers want the public to think the "D" in "3D" stands for "digital." Three Times The Digital...  |  IP: Logged Jonathan Smith Expert Film Handler Posts: 201 From: Youngstown, OH Registered: Jan 2010 posted 04-17-2010 02:21 PM                     I thought the "D" in 3D stood for depreciation  |  IP: Logged Alan Gouger Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 501 From: Bradenton, FL, USA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 04-18-2010 06:58 PM                        quote: Steve Guttag There is also Severtson, now approved for Real-D. Is there a gain a Silver screen has to meet for DCI certification?  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 04-18-2010 07:42 PM                     DCI does not have a silver screen certification, as far as I know. Real-D does as they will ghost horribly if the S/N ratio is not high. They also seem to have fixation about 2.4 gain Silver screens....so if you have Real-D...then it is likely that the nominal gain of any given screen sample is about 2.4 Steve  |  IP: Logged Bill Enos Film God Posts: 2081 From: Richmond, Virginia, USA Registered: Apr 2000 posted 04-19-2010 03:59 PM                     So, how would a "3D" coating actually differ from silver/aluminum paint other than outrageous price and ridiculous claims that can't be substantiated?  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 04-20-2010 06:22 PM                     You're correct Steve... I meant Real-D.  |  IP: Logged Kyle Butler Film Handler Posts: 47 From: Belton, TX Registered: Jan 2010 posted 05-05-2010 06:17 AM                     I personally have a silver screen at home that i had painted with Screen Goo (EXCELLENT stuff by the way) and it looks beautiful. My screen size in that particular room is only 150" and it costed nearly $700 for the paint. And i hired a contractor to do the work since it has to be sprayed (i can't operate a paint gun for ) so that costed another $100. You would be looking a very substantial bill for a theater screen (well over $5,000) Not to mention, it probably doesn't coat very well over a screen that's already been silvered. Just get an MDI silver screen. Ours is great  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-05-2010 11:01 PM                     MDI now has a 6 month backlog!  |  IP: Logged Carsten Kurz Film God Posts: 4340 From: Cologne, NRW, Germany Registered: Aug 2009 posted 05-06-2010 05:48 PM                     Sooner or later one should discuss polarization efficiency parameters when talking about 3D screens. And proper measurement techniques. 'Silver paint' is not just like any paint, but a complex formula of paint, glues, metalic particles, structuring, smoothing, application, drying, finishing, etc. Probably as complex as making a good chocolate. I'm quite sure there are HUGE differences between all these screen and paint manufacturers, and they will make a big viewing difference with the now popular circular glasses which have comparably low separation efficiency on their own. The over-all polarization efficiency of RealD and MasterImage is surprisingly low. Hard to believe it does work. - Carsten  |  IP: Logged Thomas Pitt Master Film Handler Posts: 266 From: Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK Registered: May 2007 posted 05-06-2010 06:16 PM                     Slightly off-topic, but is a new silver screen supposed to smell? When I first walked into screen 11 in the VUE Leeds Light after Real-D had been installed, I noticed a distinct paint-like smell. Due to the short period the auditorium was closed off, I assume they just replaced the projection system and repainted their original matte screen. I've heard that new screens take a while to stretch into their final position after being installed, during which time there are creases visible - not a good idea if you want to get 3D showing in time for a new release movie! Also, if you spray-paint a screen silver, won't some of the paint go over the pores (for sound) and block them up?  |  IP: Logged Carsten Kurz Film God Posts: 4340 From: Cologne, NRW, Germany Registered: Aug 2009 posted 05-06-2010 06:38 PM                     I find it hard to believe they actually repaint conventional screens for 3D. Someone mentioned RealD certification. Will such a screen ever get RealD certification? If not, there is only MasterImage left. Do they have a screen certification program? Also, I guess that replacing a white screen with a prefabricated tailored to size silver screen will still go way faster than repainting the old screen. And, taking everything into account, I don't believe repainting is cheaper. Except maybe if you buy your silver paint from surplus D.I.Y supplies... - Carsten  |  IP: Logged Julio Roberto Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 938 From: Madrid, Madrid, Spain Registered: Oct 2008 posted 05-07-2010 09:42 AM                    Plenty of silver screens with some "paint smell" for a while after manufacturing. During the 80's 3D craze, here in Spain, lots of existing matte screens were painted over silver on site. Needless to say buying one professionally made is the better option.  |  IP: Logged Jake Spell Master Film Handler Posts: 294 From: Johns Island SC Registered: May 2009 posted 05-07-2010 10:18 AM                     I'm guessing that IMAX painted screens at one point because the plans I have for an IMAX show a Screen Painting Rig attached to the top of the screen frame.  |  IP: Logged

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