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Steve Guttag
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Not really. The theatre can purchase a relatively inexpensive computer, put it on the network and then have the ability to connect to any of the projectors without having to pay for a separate touchpanel for each projector. I have one customer who has preferred this approach. In fact, one can buy a computer for each screen, if desired. The touchpanel is more of a luxury item. The communicator system can also be a means of keeping the casual tinkerer out of the system.

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Pietro Clarici
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Our first NEC projector came with the touchpanel controller, which is actually nothing more than a 5" Windows CE.net industrial PC with solid state storage.

I didn't spec it on the other 2 NC1600C-As that came after that: a basic Asus netbook running the free Communicator software under XP and a .11g access point are a *much* better (and cheaper) solution... I could fine-tune every screen file and focus setting right from the auditorium.

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Pete Naples
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That is exactly how I am doing it. The Barco/Kinoton/Cinemecannica panel is expensive for what it is.

A £200 netbook pc will do the job perfectly adequately.

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Michael Voiland
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We are getting 2 digital projectors for 4 screens. How good is the recall on the digital projectors for lens settings.

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Sean McKinnon
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Where can one find this free communicator software for the nec 1600?

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Sean,

That part is a secret.....

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Michael Hossen
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Sean, I have the communicator software for the Series 2, but I'm not sure if it's ok to post it.

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Julio Roberto
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What's with the "secret software" and crap? That's one of the things I don't like about some manufacturers.

Anyway, does anybody know what lamps the NC2000C can use? In the brochures it only talks about NEC's own 4KW model.

It surely can use other lamps, can't it? A 4Kw lamp would be too bright for one of the intended screens (though it would be ok if it could be driven at 2800W or so, if supported by the rectifier).

Also, how does the lenses work on this model? Do you need the optional motorized wide converter to do scope right, or does it come with motorized zoom standard?

I'm guessing it only needs the wide adapter if you fall outside the range of one of their lenses' zoom, right?

I can't believe how little information they place on their page and how they keep all this "super secret stuff" like ... errr, an operation manual for download.

[Roll Eyes]

Barco is starting to look good again, in spite of their backlog ...

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Chris Slycord
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quote: Julio Roberto
What's with the "secret software" and crap? That's one of the things I don't like about some manufacturers.
I can only assume it's to keep their competitors from getting info on how their machines work, although I'm sure those same people would've already gotten a hold of one of their own and taken it apart.

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Pietro Clarici
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quote: Julio Roberto
(...) does anybody know what lamps the NC2000C can use? In the brochures it only talks about NEC's own 4KW model.
Same as the 1600C. You can use the following NEC 4Kw lamps:

NC-16LP401 (17K lumens, 650 hours)
NC-16LP402 (12K lumens, 1200 hours)

One of my screens is running a 401 at 70% amperage when showing Flat 2D material. The rectifier definitely supports that.

I've also been told by my integrator that you can run regular film lamps up to 4Kw on it, although I have no first hand experience with it and don't know how this affects the warranty.

quote: Julio Roberto
(..) it only needs the wide adapter if you fall outside the range of one of their lenses' zoom, right?
Yes, motorized zoom/shift/focus is standard on every NEC D-Cinema projector.

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Gordon McLeod
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Some of that software allows modifing the projectors performance and is intended to be used only by those factory trained to work with it
The machine takes a standard range of lamps including the regular cinema grade ones

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Julio Roberto
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Thanks for the info.

I guess 2KW, 3KW and 4KW osrams XBO DHP OFR will work, then.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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What Gord said. I'll further that by saying that if you are not properly trained you can actually damage the projector. So get training first and then get software. Also, Sean... I heard rumors that you either work or did work for Strong Technical. Is this true? If it's true why are you asking around here for the software. That only leads me to other suspicous conclusions I guess....

As for regular cinema lamps in the 1600 or 2000 yes, any of the Osram short lamps will work and the NEC/Osram warranties fully supports it.

Mark

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Michael Hossen
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As far as I know, you can only run up to 3KW film lamps in the NEC series 2 projectors.

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Joe Elliott
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For the software, register at Barco's website. On 'iterests' checkmark 'digital cinema'. They will authorize you after a couple of days. They have a version of communicator just for theaters, that allows you to monitor, and adjust some parameters, but not anything that you can really screw up.

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