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Carsten Kurz
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quote: Tony Bandiera Jr
As for the players, I avoid Sony like the plague..slow boot-up and load times, piss-poor reliability, very touchy on marginal quality discs, and no indefinite pause.
Based on experience with which Sony players?

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Steve Guttag
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Note...ALL gen-1 BluRay players were ungodly slow.

The current players are MUCH MUCH faster...Sony included. In fact, Sony has a fast-boot mode too.

I have been less than impressed with SOME Panasonic image quality as compared to Denon (Same disc, same projector).

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Bajsic Bojan
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sorry, info on previous page was for Sony BDP300 (slow loading time, cannot pause indef...). Its a 1st generation device.

Of the 2nd generation,we do use BDP350 which is :
+much faster
+can pause indef
-looses sync with projector when DVD/BD is ejected/loaded (lots of 'signal lost' and flashing type of artifacts on screen)
-region 2 locked

giant nono and cant have that for the theater even if i do have shutter control on the projector.

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Carsten Kurz
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Our Sony 350 and 550 didn't have these issues. Yet to be on the safe side, we have a simple switcher between the player and the projector so that we control precisely when and what the audience get's to see.

There are some BluRay discs with in-program screensavers (Java based). So even if you can disable a player screensaver or OSD like on the Sonys, the program screen saver kicks in after a while in play-pause. So we decided to have an HDMI switcher + 1080p24 capable preview monitor to be on the safe side.

An ultra fast loading player is of no real benefit, because on all BluRays there's lot's of stuff happening before the main feature anyway, and skipping is not possible or prohibited.
Most of that is not related to Player speed. It may save you a few seconds when for some reason you have to restart the whole thing, but usually ypu simply have to precue to the main feature well in advance and keep it paused there anyway.

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Sam King
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We are also looking for a Blu Ray player. We want the analog 6/8 channel out (SIDE NOTE: isn't that the only way to get Dolby Tru/DTS MA since they cannot travel over optical and the Dolby DMA8+ doesn't have HDMI in for sound?) and the ability to disable OSD. Was leaning toward Oppo, but the OSD issue now as me back as square 1.

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Mike Olpin
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quote: Sam King was the last to post
There are some BluRay discs with in-program screensavers (Java based).
We're looking at you, Universal. Please stop sucking at BluRay authoring.

quote: Sam King
isn't that the only way to get Dolby Tru/DTS MA since they cannot travel over optical and the Dolby DMA8+ doesn't have HDMI in for sound?
For the moment yes. I'm surprised to see that Gefen doesn't have built in decoding for next gen formats over HDMI. I expect they will in the future.

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Carsten Kurz
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Currently it seems the only way to get the various BR-only Audio codecs either through 5.1/7.1 analog out OR a AV-Receiver with HDMI in AND PreAmp Outputs.

There are some cheap HDMI audio decoders on ebay, etc,, but they do NOT decode TrueHD, etc,, only pass through.

I recommend digging up a second hand or left over Sony S550.

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Fenando Caveira
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Noob question.

There is a festival coming and they wanto to use BRay.

in one room i have:
Panasonic PT-DW7000E
Kramer VP-725DSA

And on the other:
Barco DP90
with the barco switcher

Cant get picture with any of them!!
wy??? hdcp problem?

thanks

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Carsten Kurz
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Picture - yes, HD/1080p no. You might want to buy a HD-Fury, probably the cheapest solution for the Panasonic machine, but will also work with the Barco switcher (YUV or RGB, depending on HD-Fury model).

http://www.hdfury.com/

There was a mentioning of a required gore board upgrade for series-I projectors - the DP90 is one of them - which is said to enable HDCP on their DVI inputs. However, it's an expensive upgrade, and I don't know wether it's required for european machines.

Nearly all BluRay-Players do have YUV outputs, but most of them will not deliver analog 1080p signals, only SD or max 720p Signals.

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Steve Guttag
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Will the HDFury do 1080p? I though it was just 1080i as well as the various analog Component solutions.

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Carsten Kurz
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'Supports all HD/SDTV formats from 1080p down to 480i
HDTV ready (480i/480p/576i/576p/720p/1080i/1080p48/50/60 compatible)'

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Sam King
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I believe I am going to get us the Sony S550, how would it be best to get the 7.1 analog audio from 8 RCA connectors into my CP 650? Should I go through the DMA8+ or not?

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Kris Verhanneman
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If you have an optical or coaxial out yes.
1 small cable...

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Sam King
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Yes, but Dolby TruHD/DTS MasterHD cannot pass through coax/optical, you just get raw left and right channel, and many dics offer this as their only English audio option.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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If your player has only a coax and you require optical out Fostex makes a neat convertor that converts one to the other and is reasonably priced...

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