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Ian Freer
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Do not use 4.2.1.5 or 4.2.1.6
They both have a potential issue as described elsewhere in the forum. 4.2.1.7 corrects this issue (but may of course introduce other unintended issues as with any software update).

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Steve Guttag
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All of our NECs are now on 4.217 and we have not had any ill effects. Note, we didn't have any ill effects on 4.216 either but apparently that problem didn't show itself unless you powered down your projector for a week or more.

4.217 seems to be safe/solid. If you are on 4.212 I think you still have Enigma 1.6 which IS a problem so updating to 4.217 should be a priority of yours.

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Justin Hamaker
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Doing the 4.217 update the SIB firmware update initially failed on every projector, but installed fine on the second pass.

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Steve Guttag
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What version were you on previously? I'm pretty sure all of ours were on 4.216 and NONE had any failures on update at any time. I have had failures that you described on previous updates but nothing universal that I could predict it would happen on all of them. It is possible that if you jump over too many versions that things are not ready for an update until other areas are updated first. That has been the NEC way...if at first you don't succeed...try, try again.

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Fernando Caldeira
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NC3240s. I´ve been having some complaints from directors (not many) about the projectors lac of contrast..or to much light or lack of blacks.

Is this just poor calibration? does anybody else have this problem?

We aimed at 14FL...

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Justin Hamaker
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All of the projectors were on 4.212 prior to doing this update.

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Steve Guttag
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All 4K Xenon based DLP projectors have a contrast issue...they are less than their 2K counterparts. Same with the econo .69" based projectors (1/4 of the 4K chip)...also low-contrast.

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Marco Giustini
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I believe NEC recommend to unplug dvi cables from the PIB before upgrading. It's detailed somewhere. ..

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Justin Hamaker
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Going back to the issue of the white switch and powering down the projector. We now have all of our projectors plugged into a switched power supply, where we also have a few auxiliary components plugged in. Rather than switching off the white switch at night, we turn off this switch power supply. This power supply is plugged into a UPS which will keep the projector side powered during an outage.

Of course this option only works if you have the projector and lamp house power split.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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I never unplug the DVI cables to do updates, how the hell would you do that remotely? Most of the world is remotely updating Digital Cinema equipment! I;ve not had an update fail in years. It is more likely your DCC or Firmware developed a slight glitch in it that after rebooting or re-logging in and connecting again managed to clear itself.

I had recently two serial number issues at different theaters... And these projectors had never been touched other than past updates. So that was a factory issue. I did wait till someone was at the theater to double confirm the printed serial numbers on those projectors because once you choose a number you can't go back again...

Mark

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