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Topic: Integrated projector/servers
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Carsten Kurz
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From: Cologne, NRW, Germany
Registered: Aug 2009
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posted 10-09-2012 04:14 PM
There is not enough known about them to give good advice yet, and of course, they are new and will certainly have their issues at the beginning. I have been following all announcements and checked all available datasheets, and spoke to a few of their salespeople - that's all I know. The good thing is, they come from the same manufacturers that make the proven series-II machines, so even if they have some glitches at first, they will sure sort it out.
Currently it seems the Barco DP2k-10s is the most interesting of the S2k machines - it has a xenon lamp up to 2.2kW (removable lamphouse), and it offers either traditional ICP or IMB connectivity (classic external server), or the Doremi IMS1000 with internal storage.
The NEC NC900S has similiar features, but has the twin UHP lamps, same Doremi IMS, optional HD-SDI/Cinelink-II.
The Christie Solaria One has a xenon lamp as well, but it seems the only I/O configuration is Christies own IMS, although it offers HD-SDI as well. I don't know yet wether it has Cinelink/HD-SDI options like the Barco and NEC, so the HD-SDI could be of little use in cinema operations. I have read Christies IMB manual, it looks promising, but with all these machines one needs to wait and see how solid they perform. The Christie IMS uses external storage - you need to maintain that in proper condition externally. But it also is a very economical option. One could even use SSD. The Christie looks a bit more closed - yet it should be a pro that Christie makes both projector and the IMS.
All S2k machines seem to get a very similiar price-point (surprise, surprise) around 30.000-35.000US$. They are quite small and actually portable.
On the Christie, there is a choice of either motorized or non-motorized lens (for fixed ar screens), the latter could bring the price further down if you have a non-maskable screen.
The Sony SRX-R515 is quite interesting at 50.000US$ for a 4k machine including server and UPS. But you must be a 4k-fanatic to omit the still cheaper S2k machines above. The Sony is actually the first D-Cinema projector with a decent contrast ratio (up to 8000:1). 8000:1 at 4k is a real big step forward in image quality. I hope to see one personally soon.
I don't know yet wether I would strictly rule out the UHP lamps. (NEC/Sony). They do have their benefits. And they eliminate the risk of a xenon bulb explode with all associated cost if you're over warranty hours. They also offer a nice and easy way to balance 2D/3D brightness.
All of these machines offer HFR. Wether they offer enough brightness for 3D depends on your screen size. Due to the compact design and limited space and lamp options, Dolby3D will certainly not be possible with any of these, but active 3D or MasterImage/RealD should be possible, again within the limits of your screen size.
The problem with the built-In IMS is - there is your interface to all ingest, playlist, automation, configuration needs. Will they offer the same functionality as the mature Dolby or Doremi servers? On a Dolby or Doremi classic server, you can swap all components if needed. The IMS is a single-board-item, and a full-replace is the only repair-option.
These machines will save the lives of many small houses for sure.
I'm wondering what this will bring for the Solaria 2210, Barco DP2k-12c, NC1200C?
- Carsten
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Carsten Kurz
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posted 11-15-2012 04:09 PM
From what I see, the price spread looks logical to me. The Barco S2k is the closest to a full blown series-II projector - Xenon, generic IMB slot, Enigma option, retractable lamp house, IMS with integrated storage, etc. It's a scaled down Barco series II machine.
The Christie has a more basic IMS without integrated storage, and less expansion options, maybe also your quoted price is without full motorized lens (US version).
Then the NECs are usually cheaper and the NC900C has the twin UHP bulb, yet the same IMS as the Barco.
As far as brightness goes, they should be quite similiar - around 9000 lumens peak with the brightest lamp option.
With a smaller screen, you should be fine even with lamp aging. Some UHP types age a lot quicker than others. Let's hope the NEC bulbs are not too bad in that aspect.
Still I'm sure these low-power xenons will have a nicer brightness roll-off. The Christie 1kW lamp is quoted at 4000hrs.
Has someone seen quotes for these NEC replacement bulbs?
Some of these S2k machines offer some unusual options like brightness boost or non-DCI compliant higher brightness modes, still I think there is little difference between them once set up in your cinema. Only the Sony has a considerably higher output at 15.000 lumens.
- Carsten
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