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Manny Knowles
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posted 06-17-2014 04:29 PM

quote: Paul H. Rayton
According to this website announcement, the BFI (British Film Institute) will be the source of a new DCP of "2001" later this year.

Paul, please remember to post the text of the story, because web links are not always permanent.

Here is the story:

quote:

BFI to rerelease Stanley Kubrick’s 2001: A Space Odyssey

Stanley Kubrick’s science-fiction masterpiece 2001: A Space Odyssey will be rereleased nationwide on 28 November as part of our blockbuster Science Fiction project.

20 March 2014

Stanley Kubrick’s spectacular, transcendent epic has been the touchstone for all science-fiction cinema since its original 1968 release. This landmark film will return to cinema screens across the UK on 28 November when the BFI, as part of its 2014 Science Fiction blockbuster project, releases a magnificent digital transfer from Warner Bros.

With a screenplay co-written by Kubrick and Arthur C. Clarke and developed concurrently alongside Clarke’s novel of the same name, 2001: A Space Odyssey is widely regarded as one of the greatest films ever made. Critic Roger Ebert described Kubrick’s masterpiece as “a stand-alone monument, a great visionary leap, unsurpassed in its vision of man and the universe”.

The BFI’s Science Fiction Film blockbuster will be presented over three months (October - December 2014) with a historical and thematic exploration of the best of this perennially popular and visionary genre. The UK-wide release of 2001: A Space Odyssey will be a highlight in a wide-ranging programme to be revealed in full in July.

It's ambiguous, because there's no mention of a new restoration by BFI or anyone else. It also refers to a digital "transfer" by Warner Bros which, to me, sounds like it's probably the same DCP that already exists. Note the absence of the word "new" in all of this. Finally, why would WB restore (or repackage) a movie simply so that BFI could include it in a program?

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John Wilson
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posted 06-17-2014 10:49 PM

Move along...nothing to see here. (I posted the text, but then saw Manny had taken care of it.)

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Manny Knowles
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posted 06-19-2014 11:51 AM

How could you let me beat you to it? I mean, it was already "tomorrow" there in Australia.

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Mitchell Dvoskin
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posted 06-19-2014 12:45 PM

The Museum Of The Moving Image in New York City is running 2001 in that quaint old 70mm format over the 4th of July weekend.

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Leo Enticknap
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posted 06-29-2014 11:36 PM

...and we're playing the DCP. I fear it'll probably be the shitty one discussed above, but am hoping that they've re-done it properly.

I'm guessing that the BFI's press release is trying to say that the BFI's distribution department is distributing the WB DCP in the UK to its usual circuit of the City Screens, indies, university film societies, etc. etc. Incidentally, there were new 70mm prints of the movie made for a limited re-release in 2001 (I can't remember if they were DTS or mag), of which two circulated in Britain. One was scratched in an accident shortly after the release date, but I was told that the other eventually ended up in the BFI's archive, was shown at the South Bank occasionally and is reported to still be in pretty good condition.

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Martin Brooks
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posted 07-04-2014 07:19 PM

Museum of the Moving Image in Astoria, NY is playing a 70mm print of 2001 on July 5th at 3pm. They'll also be playing a 70mm print of Brainstorm on July 12th at 7pm.

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Jonathan Goeldner
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posted 01-20-2015 09:57 PM

oh ugh - just came back from seeing this on Arclight's Bethesda's 'widescreen' screen, objects looked gauzey and displayed edge enhancement, a couple of moments there was a slight judder (when the camera isn't even moving) - honestly a 70mm feature being downrezzed to 2K and looking like this - what an embarrassment for a classic sci-fi movie.

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Paul Gordon
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posted 01-21-2015 05:55 AM

A 35mm print of 2001 would have been a better option. The ones I've played look stunning.

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Frank Angel
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posted 01-26-2015 10:35 PM

Just when you thought 2001 has suffered enough indignities, there's THIS abomination:

http://nofilmschool.com/2015/01/steven-soderbergh-takes-51-minutes-out-2001-space-odyssey-recut

Steven Soderbergh Takes 51 Minutes out of '2001: A Space Odyssey' in His Latest Recut

Director Steven Soderbergh has become a bit of a recut/remix artist, re-editing several classic films, like Raiders of the Lost Ark, Heaven's Gate, and Psycho. This time it's Stanley Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey that gets the Soderbergh treatment.
If you're wondering how anyone, even a fantastic filmmaker like Soderbergh, could retouch a masterpiece like 2001, you're not alone. Quite a number of Kubrick fans and purists have voiced some displeasure with the new version, which cuts nearly an entire hour out of the original film. However, Soderbergh gives us a little insight into his purpose and vision behind his recut:

i’ve been watching 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY regularly for four decades, but it wasn’t until a few years ago i started thinking about touching it, and then over the holidays i decided to make my move. why now? I don’t know. maybe I wasn’t old enough to touch it until now. maybe i was too scared to touch it until now, because not only does the film not need my—or anyone else’s—help, but if it’s not THE most impressively imagined and sustained piece of visual art created in the 20th century, then it’s tied for first. meaning IF i was finally going to touch it, i’d better have a bigger idea than just trimming or re-scoring.

You can watch the recut right here, though the video may periodically stop working (If it does, you can watch it at this link)
:https://pdlvimeocdn-a.akamaihd.net/49054/939/325499959.mp4?token2=1421464267_c2b7460f2bc108366a6ed7e40b19e9a4&aksessionid=2aade9e50970c075

Look, can't we all get together and hire a hooker to seduce this arrogant turd and when he's not looking, have her paint his balls with 200% concentrated capsaicin cream and then sentence him to solitary where he'll be forced to watch MAGIC MIKE 5 times a day, everyday for, oh, I don't know, 11, 12, 13 years...or how ever many more OCEANS he tortures us with.

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Robert Harris
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posted 01-30-2015 01:37 PM

2001 was recorded in 4 track for all reels except the final, as 6-track recording was not available in the UK.

The final reel was dubbed at MGM in LA, and was full 6-track.

RAH

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Steve Guttag
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posted 01-31-2015 07:18 AM

Yes but it did pan the dialog and it is a rare situation where the "spread "mix worked rather well. LC/RC speaker did tend to take large share of the dialog, when appropriate.

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Terry Monohan
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posted 02-07-2015 11:20 AM

The old Fox Hollywood Cinerama Theatre in Portland Or has 70mm back on film now in the large semi curved screen cinema downstairs. The first 70mm showing in many years will be for 2001 in 70mm on Sat March 21 2015. It sold out in 8 hours they even added a second 70mm run on Sunday March 22 and now that is sold out. 70mm is back in Portland with the Hollywood Theatres new 70mm projectors. The next film will be the 70mm version of Vertigo coming soon.

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Stephan Shelley
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posted 02-07-2015 01:44 PM

Terry is that a mag or dts print?

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Terry Monohan
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posted 02-08-2015 01:04 PM

I think It will be the DTS 70mm print. They may have to add a 3rd showing.

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Marcel Birgelen
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posted 02-08-2015 06:06 PM

quote: Frank Angel
Look, can't we all get together and hire a hooker to seduce this arrogant turd and when he's not looking, have her paint his balls with 200% concentrated capsaicin cream and then sentence him to solitary where he'll be forced to watch MAGIC MIKE 5 times a day, everyday for, oh, I don't know, 11, 12, 13 years...or how ever many more OCEANS he tortures us with.

I guess Soderberg is a generally arrogant prick with some bright moments now and then, at least that's generally consistent with his oeuvre up until now and also when I read about a "special not-my-movie director's cut" of 2001. I honestly don't think this movie needs anybody's hand.

Then again, everybody is entitled to his or her own version of 2001: A Space Odyssey, as long as nobody ever dares to pull a George Lucas on the original version.

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