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Jure Maticic
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 - posted 06-30-2013 02:04 PM      Profile for Jure Maticic   Email Jure Maticic   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Alan,
we've had one for about a month now and all is working fine, no problems yet. Some of the bugs and stuff that did not function were fixed with the first update. We don't have 3D, so there is little I can tell you about that. For the system itself: it is fairly straightforward, easy to use ... coming from someone that was not involved with 35mm projection and operated only video projectors in the past.

The picture is very good, the only thing you need to be careful about are the lamps that need about 2-3 minutes to warm up. Before that they put out a peculiar greenish light.

Jure

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Carsten Kurz
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We are still lucky with our 515. So far only 3D Option is Sony supplied polarization in a one-time-buy model, no RealD license. No Dolby 3D as for the 320. Why I don't know.

I will have a meeting this coming wednesday with a cinema operator from nearby operating one 320 and three 515. They were not so lucky with their 515, one was DOA, one has control issues (douser closing feedback). They are still very happy with the picture. Ours is performing flawlessly since day one. Every now and then the server will not shutdown completely at the end of the day. We power it off then.

The first software update from May only solved stability and TMS related issues, no visible functional improvements in the GUI. We are now 'officially' allowed to do all tasks simultaneously while show play (did it before, however, without issues).

Next functional upgrade is said to be scheduled for july.

I'm missing network control of our AP20, JNIOR, and better show programming interface (list view, backwards referenced cues, etc.). But these are just 'nice-to-haves'.

- Carsten

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Marco Giustini
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Software wise there has been one update, whether it applies to you depends on the version you have. It's the first stable and working version, no new features though.

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Alan Gouger
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Thank you for the replies.

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Andrew Thomas
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I got to see one out in the wild for the first time and was very impressed by the image quality. Control system seemed a little goofy though.

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Brad Miller
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The latest firmware for the 515 is v1.10.2 It's still very basic, but stable.

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Carsten Kurz
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Yep, never had any issues with it so far. The web interface may seem a bit simplicated at first, but compared to the usual Doremi/Dolby server/DLP combo it packs everything into a single range of tabs, server AND projector control. I got to like it quickly.

The timeline playlist editor is a pain in the ass for longer shows because it truncates item names to illegibility , hope they fix that soon, although it does have some benefits too compared to the list-only display of other servers.

No 'seek-to' yet, but the Intermission setup offers a workaround.
No back-referenced Cues. No user accessible file system maintenance tools.

The server has lot's of GPIO, but so far lacks any raw-type of network or serial automation, only some very few CPs are supported. We get away nicely with 15GPOs so far for our needs, but I would like to see more automation capabilities.
Ingest speed is very good over CRU and USB3.0. Lot's of DCP drives now come with USB3.0. There is also a new smaller CRU form factor now supporting CRU and USB3.0, the 'DCmini'. It's already in use over here.

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Marco Giustini
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Hi Carsten,

Can I ask what is the workaround you mentioned? How do you do it?

Network control: the R320 has not improved over time, I'm not expecting the 515 to suddenly become able to control equipment over the network any soon.

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Carsten Kurz
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'Offset Play' in intermission setup allows you to enter an arbitrary time to start preview play. You seek to the position you want, then you just exit without setting an intermission. As this is available within the SPL editor, it's a quick sideway. Hope they implement real seek-to-time soon.

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Brad Miller
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On one of the Sonys you can pause to get an offset entry point, on the other model you can press stop to get an offset entry point. (I'm comparing 515s and 320s)

Note on the 320s you must use the actual screen or VNC into it. You can't use their SMS software for access to the offset.

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Carsten Kurz
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Sony just confirmed that the SRX-R515P will have a 'smaller' (cheaper) brother early 2014 - the SRX-R510P.

http://www.sony.de/pro/press/pr-sony-srx-r510p?SM=FB2&src=41213_post_SRX-R510P_

It will only have 4 lamps instead of 6, 9.000Lumen instead of 15.000, and a slightly reduced contrast (per spec).

It is just a striped-down version of the 515 to gain some market share in the small screen segment, just like Barco did with their DP2k-10Sx->DP2k-8Sx.
Aside from leaving away two lamp sockets and power supplies, probably also some minor adjustments in the lightbox/FlyEye department.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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As soon as I saw in the brochure... "The new 6-lamp system delivers the resilience you need so you never have to stop a show." I had read enough and I am still laughing!

As for UHP lamps... Many of them are unproven however NEC used a well prooven UHP lamp system for the NC-900 that had been in use for their larger DLP board room projectors for a number of years. I have had great luck so far with them in 23 installs and measured one location last weekend that had just went past half life of 1500 hours. No color change and only 8% light ouput loss. Better light stability than xeon!

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Carsten Kurz
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Mark, what is it that makes you laugh about lamp failure redundancy?

Both machines use the same lamp type from USHIO.

- Carsten

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Carsten...

It's nothing to do with redundancy at all... It's the six lamps I'm laughing about... Still)! In these projectors if you even loose one lamp you have to (at least very definately should) re-shoot the colors. No two UHP reflectors are the same.

Honestly, I could care less how black the Sony can go. How many rooms are black enough to make use of it? Virtually none! With light scatter fomr the screen itself, aisle lighting and various exit signs and such as required by local codes there is no such thing as a black room. The black from your Sony is still gonna look gray.

Mark

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Ken Lackner
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How long are the lamps supposed to last? Are you saying that even when operators change lamps at regular intervals, colors should be remeasured?

does the 515 use basically the same internal optics (LRD and PRD) as the 220 and 320?

quote: Carsten Kurz
So far only 3D Option is Sony supplied polarization in a one-time-buy model, no RealD license.
But does it use Real D polarizers like the 3D lenses for the 220 and 320? Is it either the same lens or a similar product for this projector? Or something completely different altogether?

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