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Topic: re-installing 35 for Interstellar?
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Frank Angel
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From: Brooklyn NY USA
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 09-19-2014 03:04 PM
Question, is he going to SHOOT on film? If everything is going to originate in the digital realm, what really is the advantage of releasing it on film, other that the marketing value of being able to hype it as a "special event?"
I agree with Bobby that there is a better chance of seeing quality presentation in the venues that still have 70mm left in place -- although it is still questionable that there will be enough competent projectionists still around to be able to treat those prints correctly and do worthy presentation.
But as for the 35mm houses, I put my money with Scott's assessment -- run of the mill commercial multiplexes are not going to whip together old 35mm equipment and platters that have been laying around unused and not maintained for a decade and show Film Done Right. And will they call up those assistant managers who used to "run" the booths to come back and do to prints what they used to do to them before digital? Anyone care to go back and read the YOU SUCK thread here and get reminded of what used to be done to prints...and that was when prints were run day in and day out. Imagine what is going to happen when film is going to be run again for the first time. It will be like reinventing the wheel....imagine THAT learning curve.
My guess is this will only happen in a handful of theatres which are specialty venues to begin with and which can still handle film and still have tech people in place who are fairly competent to do it right; I can't see anyone on the studio side being that clue-less as to put prints back into all those bottom feeder multiplexes that wouldn't hand film properly 5, 10 years ago. You know, the same theatres that already are screwing up digital presentation.
I just saw CAPTAINS OF THE UNIVERSE at a local triplex. Left side of the picture was out of focus throughout, right side of the picture was fully half the brightness of left side -- interesting half and half presentation -- half out of focus and the half that was in focus was under-lit. And there was no center channel, so the dialog was half unintelligible. Oh, and the screen was 8 feet off the ground, bottom of it starting much higher than your head when you sat down. Paramount is going to put a major release on film and then put it into THOSE theatres? They can't be that stupid.
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Dustin Mitchell
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1865
From: Mondovi, WI, USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 09-21-2014 02:19 AM
Most people here think you're a troll. That's inaccurate. In my opinion, you're simply delusional.
Firstly, how many locations showed the 70mm engagement of The Master? I'm willing to bet it was a very small number, nothing compared to the apparent plans for a as wide a release on 35mm as possible.
Second, the question is not just equipment availability. As far as I know, almost every Carmike has at least one film capable screen, and I know many other theaters kept some film capability. And you are right of course, in a pinch there is a lot of old equipment still sitting in booths. But this equipment-both that which remains and installed and that pushed to the side-has not been properly maintained in years in most cases. It takes just one dead LED or failed mircroswitch and you have a wrap and melted film to deal with.
And that leads us to the third issue, experienced personal. In the case of the 70mm engagements of The Master, I have no doubt either properly trained personal already worked at the venues showing it, or retired projectionists were brought in to handle the showings. This will not be the case with the run of the mill multiplex with a 35mm print of Interstellar. Forget about all the other mistakes that can happen in the day to day running of film, what happens when a platter fails, the film wraps, and 'burns' on screen, and the manager on duty, who can barely thread a projector, has to deal with it?
No, this is a misguided effort that will only end up being a waste of money for all involved.
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Marcel Birgelen
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From: Maastricht, Limburg, Netherlands
Registered: Feb 2012
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posted 09-21-2014 05:02 AM
He frequently randomly insults other forum members, so I guess the troll qualification quite obviously applies. Delusional and troll aren't entirely mutually exclusive either.
A theater not far from here (Eden Palast in Aachen, Germany), did a complete overhaul of their DP70 in 2011, including an overhaul of the rest of the theater, like restoring the original, curved screen. They've been running 70mm for selected special events ever since. But even they didn't show The Master in 70mm. First off all, there were almost no 70mm prints available in Europe and secondly, I doubt they wanted to spend the money on keeping the necessary people on the payroll during the whole engagement.
Showing a 70mm print for some special events and running film in daily production are two totally different things. While you could easily get somebody with sufficient knowledge for that one evening, it's an entirely other matter if you need to do this day in and out.
And like many already quite eloquently explained, nobody is going to invest money into a medium with no future at all. It's not like the exhibition industry has the big cash to spare, especially since 2014 turns out to be a somewhat shitty year for most cinemas. Unless somebody with the power to push forward revives e.g. 5/70 as a new premium format, nobody is going to invest any serious money and efforts into film.
A few high profile locations, namely those who will do the local premieres and those few locations still left with working 35mm installs, will probably be showing this thing in 35mm or maybe even 5/70 (if those prints actually materialize), but that will be about it.
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