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Jarod Reddig
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 - posted 09-29-2014 08:43 PM      Profile for Jarod Reddig   Email Jarod Reddig   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I think your exactly right. KC or Denver which I drive there multiple times each year. Though like you said im not sure which venues but Im gunna start making calls in coming weeks.

Ya Ive been a frequenter on the Warren Theaters in Wichita for about 10 years now, always preferring the 21st one in which every house has (had?)THX certification there. I have been to the Moore location once and is was almost identical to there 13th street location in Wichita as well as identical IMAX layouts as you prolly know.

The last film I seen in 35mm at 21st Warren was Rango and it was a bad print and it was even opening weekend. Surprised me but not really at the same time. I would love it if Bill would do a 5/70 run at either of the three. He is know for being all about presentation quality and classic cinema spirit before so maybe a man can hope.

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Marc D Fishman
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Bobby..

Interstellar was mixed 5.1 only (and IMAX 5.0.).

No 7.1, no Atmos.

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Buck Wilson
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Kansas City won't get any 70mm. That would be extremely convenient if they did though.

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Amanda Mundin
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How will the film prints be made?
I assume the 15/70 prints will be photochemical from 15/65 footage but Digital Intermediate from 4/35 footage, would that be correct? Also will the Imax prints be printed straight from Original Neg or go through IP/IN?
Will the 5/70 prints be all photochemical?
Does anyone print 15/65 to 5/70 optically or will the 15/65 be transfered to 5/70 via DI?
Also will the 5/70 prints be printed from O-Neg or will they go through IP/IN? I assume they'll go to the trouble of at least blowing up the 4/35 footage to 5/70 optically and not create the 5/70 prints from a DI?

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Connor Wilson
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Amanda, here's info on Interstellar's tech specs:

http://www.interstellarmovie.com/formats/

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Jarod Reddig
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It would indeed be convenient Buck.

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Martin Brooks
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quote: Frank Angel
I just saw CAPTAINS OF THE UNIVERSE at a local triplex. Left side of the picture was out of focus throughout, right side of the picture was fully half the brightness of left side -- interesting half and half presentation -- half out of focus and the half that was in focus was under-lit. And there was no center channel, so the dialog was half unintelligible.
Which theatre was that Frank, the Kent? If I'm right, what would your expect from a place like that.

There's a list online of what theaters are playing Interstellar in which format. I originally counted 41 IMAX 70mm, 7 70mm 5-perf and 190 35mm, but I see there's now 9 theaters playing 70mm/5 perf, so it seems to be in flux. I'm really surprised the digital version isn't being released in Dolby Atmos. Seems this kind of film would lend itself to that. And I assume that the 70mm 5-perf are going to be DTS, not 6-track mag, which kind of kills it for me. Film theaters get the film 2 days in advance of digital theaters.

Funny thing is that they don't name the theaters - they only list the address. But the 70mm 5-perf is playing at:
CA: ArcLight Hollywood, Grand Lake Oakland
GA: Cine Bistro Atlanta
NY: Ziegfeld, Cinema 1,2,3 (the latter is a bit of a waste - small screen)
TX: Studio Movie Grill Arlington, Ritz Alamo Drafthouse Austin, Look Cinemas Dallas, Studio Move Grill, Dallas

https://interstellar.withgoogle.com/ways-to-see

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Eric Robinson
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I just noticed that part of the technical specs about the film indicate that it is in "a seamless 2.40:1 scope image." Am I reading the specs correctly to conclude that the 35mm version will be 2.40?

Information from:
Technical specs.

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Frank Angel
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Yes it was the Kent -- first time I had been there in 30 years. And it just proves the point that putting a digital box into a theatre that had no concept of quality presentation when it was running film, that alone won't change anything. Same disrespect for presentation, the filmmakers and the customers will continue no matter what piece of hardware is up there.

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Dave Macaulay
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That's what you get when you use the lowball bidder for an installation. Doing the boresight/Scheimpflug adjustment is a PITA and takes time. When you only budget 4 hours for a screen conversion, that's the stuff that gets skipped. Plus training someone how to align the lamp.

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Jonathan Goeldner
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so the 5/70 prints are 2.40 or 2.20? - wouldn't it make sense to do less cropping of the 4:3 IMAX shot scenes to such sheer wideness of the former aspect ratio?

CAPTAINS OF THE UNIVERSE? huh? Don't you mean 'Guardians of the Galaxy' Frank?

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Carsten Kurz
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According to http://www.interstellarmovie.com/formats/ :

'When presented on regular 70mm film, the IMAX sequences have been optically reduced to 70mm 5 perf film to produce a grain-free, ultra-high resolution image, cropped top and bottom to fill the wide screen. The 35mm anamorphic sections have been blown up optically. Both processes are photochemical, preserving the original analog color of the imagery and combined in a 2.2:1 widescreen presentation.'

5/70 presentation will be cropped to 2.2 in the native IMAX sequences. Wether '35mm blown up' means 2.40 letterboxed in 2.20 or cropped at the sides to 2.20 - that passage is unclear. I assume the latter - they would probably avoid aspect ratio switching in the 5/70 version, and 2.4 to 2.2 cropping is a lot more acceptable than IMAX -> 2.2 or even 2.4 cropping.

The 35mm and digital (non-IMAX digital) version will be 2.40 throughout, with the 35mm native footage been optically transferred 1:1, and the IMAX native footage being cropped down not optically, but from 8k scans to 2.40.

So in the case of 35mm presentation, the 35mm source footage will be 'all analog', while the IMAX footage will have gone through an 8k scanning and 4k filmwriting process.
The latter probably because the cropping to 2.4 was to elaborate for optical cropping (and to anamorphic!) and probably had to be adjusted on a shot-by-shot basis.

- Carsten

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Frank Angel
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quote: Jonathan Goeldner
CAPTAINS OF THE UNIVERSE? huh? Don't you mean 'Guardians of the Galaxy' Frank?
Good catch Jonathan. Yes...but you gotta admit, I was close.

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