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Steve Guttag
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I have now seen it in written form (dated just a few days ago.) <sigh>

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Carsten Kurz
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Any specifics towards the CAT745? Will they let it die too, or could they find a way to address it from a Doremi server? What a waste that would be - but I guess it wouldn't make much sense to have both IMBs + the IMS as separate product lines in a declining market?

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Pete Naples
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Cat745 is history.

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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

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Yep...the entire line is done after 6/30/15. The CAT745 lives on, in a sense, with the USL server.

From what I can tell, Dolby is hoping to bridge the two system with the Doremi TMS and allow it to be more Dolby aware to retain its features.

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Gavin Lewarne
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Well this is pretty sucky.

We are a VPF site with a two year old DSS200 + CAT862. Hopefully dcinex have a good supply of spare parts - I cant see them offering any swaps to doremi equipment under the 10 year hardware warranty plan, not without some significant costs involved to the exhibitor should the need arise.

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Steve Guttag
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Dolby should have parts for, at least, 3-years after discontinuation. Of the DCinema things we have had to deal with...the CAT862 (and the DSS200 as a whole) have been on the high-side of reliability. While I know there have been CAT862 failures...we have yet to need to replace one.

But I agree on the suckiness of the decision. I would have hoped they would have kept the DSS line active until such time as they could have a new server that was an upgrade to both lines.

In exhibitor speak...I'd much rather compete with myself (have people buy either the Dolby or Doremi server) than to make people that were buying the Dolby server have to merely consider the Doremi or go someplace else. People that chose the Dolby server had the opportunity to go with Doremi...how do you know that Doremi would have been their 2nd pick?

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Gavin Lewarne
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I know that when we originally signed up to the VPF I was given the choice of server and projector equipment, nothing was forced on me. I did my research and spoke to several other locations that were running Doremi and NEC. I didn't like what I heard so we went for Dolby + Barco.

I remember our original installer saying that was a pretty radical choice (considering the popularity of Doremi here), but I have to say in 2 years we have only lost 2 shows, ever. And that was because our enigma board died.

Our dolby kit has been incredibly reliable. Sure, it has had some weird things happen, but nothing that has ever impacted on things the customers would know about.

Now I am questioning my original decision and wondering about the state of support / software upgrades in the future.

All in all, im not too happy about this. Luckily, I suppose, I have the VPF hardware warranty of 10 years as a safety blanket, however good that is going to be now.....

I worry about what is going on over at dolby. About a year ago now they completely pulled out of content creation business in the UK (they produced Pearl and Dean advertisement drives), CP750 support seemed to have stopped with 1.2.8.3 2+ YEARS ago, and now this.

I think I will write to dcinex and enquire about ongoing warranty support on Dolby equipment they supplied.

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Carsten Kurz
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quote: Pete Naples
Cat745 is history.
Woa. That must hurt. I guess they spent a lot of money into it when they bought it from USL and then needed to dig into the software development themselves. Now it's just established and - boom. I guess no one cares about the DSS220.

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Marco Giustini
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The DSS220 is a server. The 2K4 is not. From the chassis point of view - and not only.

<sigh>

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Carsten Kurz
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I would comply if you'd written 'DSS200'. What makes the DSS220 a server? And what would that mean in the cinema environment, given the absence of CRU bay, hardware RAID, IO, etc.? The intent clearly was to strip down the DSS200 to the bare necessary. There's nothing on it that makes it special or exceptionally suited.

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Marco Giustini
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the server graded chassis.

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Magnus Eriksson
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Oh s**t. Sweden is a 90 - 95% Dolby 'classic' territory.
"Wootton Bassett, we have a problem" :-/

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Carsten Kurz
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Seems that in fact Doremi bought Dolby...

- Carsten

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Steve Kraus
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Does someone want to start a new thread? This is pretty major stuff to be buried at the end of an unrelated topic.

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Philip Jones
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In a case like this would the content providers reissue KDMs which cover the dates the media block thinks it is so you can still run until the repairs are made?

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