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Author Topic: Why 3D doesn't work and never will. Case closed. David E. Nedrow Master Film Handler Posts: 368 From: Columbus, OH, USA Registered: Oct 2008 posted 02-10-2011 06:20 PM                        quote: Tom Petrov The only real "Fail" is Technicolour 3D and that is because it is a filmed based format. Why does being film-based make it a "fail"? I've seen a demo of T3D and it looked great. The image was bright and clear, there were no registration problems or fringing. Even better, no aliasing on diagonal lines, which I find common to all digital projection, including IMAX. Full disclosure, I'm an IMAX investor. I will admit that T3D has the least amount of product, given that a couple of big studios are babies and don't want to support it. That, combined with the fact that the holdouts have interlocking boards of directors with RealD and Dolby, and RealD has at least one board member (James Cameron) who is fanatically obsessed with digital production and exhibition. Frankly, if I had a fly loft to store a 3D screen in, I'd have T3D in short order.  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 02-13-2011 09:08 PM                        Technicolor 3D (IF standards are exeeded) can blow away the Digital 3D. Contact me by email if you need a demo in Kentucky. Louis  |  IP: Logged Don Furr Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 509 From: Sun City, Ca USA Registered: Nov 2002 posted 02-13-2011 10:37 PM                     As much as I love film 3D, what sense does it make to invest in T3D when several major distributors have made it clear that 35mm is going away by 2012? Surely the other major players will be announcing similar decisions soon. Film is going away....can't we all agree on that? Don  |  IP: Logged Jake Spell Master Film Handler Posts: 294 From: Johns Island SC Registered: May 2009 posted 02-14-2011 01:31 AM                     I saw someone post that elsewhere. What prof do you have that Its going to 2012? I know its going to happen but this seems to be way too soon.  |  IP: Logged Victor Liorentas Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 800 From: london ontario canada Registered: May 2009 posted 02-14-2011 01:48 AM                     If we all agree not to agree with these studio suits who could care less about movies long term, than maybe the industry will be forced to change it's retarded strategy? I agree not to agree!  |  IP: Logged Bruce Hansen Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 847 From: Stone Mountain, GA, USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 02-14-2011 07:00 PM                     Film is going away in 2012 because the world will end in 2012 (please don't think that I am dumb enough to believe either of these things).  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 02-15-2011 02:21 AM                        Well....I just read today that incandescent light bulbs are going away next year. I'm going to have to lay in a supply of the 40-watt medium base clear bulbs we use under the marquee -- those twirly doohickeys would just look wrong under there and I've never seen a bulb-shaped CFL that small yet.  |  IP: Logged Tom Mundell Expert Film Handler Posts: 120 From: Silver Spring, MD, USA Registered: Nov 2007 posted 02-15-2011 08:34 AM                        If I'm thinking of the right bulbs you're describing, they do make cfl versions of them; I've seen them at some malls. Definitely don't look as good though!  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 02-15-2011 10:53 AM                     The whole discontinuation of incandescent thing isn't in one fell swoop. They are targeting the higher wattage (100W+) "A" lamps first...I'm not sure the 40W are even on the RADAR yet. Specialty lamps are not on it either. What they want is to stop people from buying the common "A" lamp in the high wattage as they are the least efficient and MOST popular (because they are so cheap!). It is a sad day when the very symbol of a good idea (the light bulb above one's head) is considered something that we want to get rid of. CFLs are, at best, a stepping stone to LEDs. The CFLs have mercury in them and there is not getting around that. As LEDs come down in price and increase their package styles/color options...you'll see them take over. They cost less to operate and last longer (and deal with temp extremes better than CFLs). The Cost/life of the lamp...LEDs already win...it just takes decades to fully realize that at this time. Most people don't think in decades though. -Steve  |  IP: Logged Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 02-15-2011 12:00 PM                        We buy thousands of incandescent at a time for our big theatre for the house lights -- six coves across the ceiling, each about sixty feet long and each using about 80 bulbs -- we use 40w bulbs. The possibility of them eventually becoming unavailable has worried us. And the handwriting seems to be on the wall; one of our suppliers, 1000bulbs.com, sent out a sale email about a month ago -- all wattages going for 99c for a two pack. About a week ago, they dropped to 25c each. Obviously they are trying to dump their inventory....and we are buying big time. The spectre of needing to replace them with dimable CFLs which really don't dim nearly as well and which will introduce who knows how much EMI noise into sound and video equipment is daunting. And of course price is out of the ball park.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 02-15-2011 03:08 PM                        What are most people going to do with a CFL bulb when it burns out? That's right, they'll throw it away. That right there causes more harm to the environment than any incandescent bulb ever could.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 02-15-2011 03:08 PM                        My procedure here has been, if it's a bulb that can be seen by the public, then it needs to be an "old fashioned" style bulb since we have an old building and I'm trying to preserve this historic "look and feel." I would think you could still buy incandescents for some of these specialty-type things where "looks matter" but I suppose they'll drive the prices through the roof. Thanks for that website Frank, I'll check that out.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 02-15-2011 03:53 PM                     Specialty lamps are already priced at a premium. I remember back at the Uptown when the manager discovered he could use "refrigerator" lamps in place of the traditional marquee lamps. The cost savings was pretty major and the refrigerator lamps lasted much longer too! When you "gotta have" that particular look, there is going to be a premium. Again, I've heard nothing about the discontinuation of specialty lamps and even the small wattage incandescents (though anything with the traditional light bulb look will come under fire). What would nix the specialty lamp market are the normal market forces if nobody is buying them at some point in time.  |  IP: Logged

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