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Author Topic: Jurassic World : Flat Format Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 06-09-2015 03:48 PM                     quote: Justin Hamaker What are the pixel dimensions of Jurassic World? Is it 2048 x 1024? That would be too logical. It's probably more like 2:1 in a flat container at 1998 X 999.  |  IP: Logged Jonathan Goeldner Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1360 From: Washington, District of Columbia Registered: Jun 2008 posted 06-09-2015 03:59 PM                     what does 'Image Format: 1998x1080 Flat' mean Universal releasing only 2K DCP's of this (considering this was filmed in 35mm and 65mm) doesn't amount to a hill of beans - they've already shortchanged the audio aspect to only 7.1 (5.1 is a given but come on) ... what the hell??  |  IP: Logged Tom Tomlinson Film Handler Posts: 21 From: Port Washington, NY, USA Registered: Dec 2000 posted 06-09-2015 04:08 PM                     Will the dcp that Imax makes be 2:1 as well??  |  IP: Logged Jonathan Goeldner Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1360 From: Washington, District of Columbia Registered: Jun 2008 posted 06-09-2015 04:17 PM                     ^ one would hope - of the three times I've seen the trailer on the IMAX-laser screen at the Airbus IMAX Theater / Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center it has that aspect ratio.  |  IP: Logged Eric Richard Film Handler Posts: 33 From: Spring, Texas USA Registered: Dec 2014 posted 06-09-2015 04:50 PM                     quote: Tom Tomlinson Will the dcp that Imax makes be 2:1 as well?? DKP has stated "JW" is 1.90:1, which was the same as "Tomorrowland" IMAX. I was impressed with the IMAX "Tomorrowland" presentation on our IMAX screen. We have a screen designed for 15/70, but have since gone to the series II digital IMAX system(Christie). Of course this means even IMAX shot films will no longer fill my screen. I still maintain my MPX 15/70 projector just in case they ever want to give me a film!  |  IP: Logged Justin Hamaker Film God Posts: 2253 From: Lakeport, CA USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 06-09-2015 05:05 PM                        quote: Bobby Henderson It's probably more like 2:1 in a flat container at 1998 X 999 That makes sense. Trying to slap together a quick framing chart to use for my screens.  |  IP: Logged Carsten Kurz Film God Posts: 4340 From: Cologne, NRW, Germany Registered: Aug 2009 posted 06-09-2015 07:53 PM                     No framing charts for germany as well. Distributor says: 'Use the trailer as a reference, the main feature will be exactly like it'. Well, the 2D trailer is actually 1920*960 letter- AND pillarboxed in 1998*1080... These jerks... So what will we see when the KDM becomes valid? 1998*999, or do we need to setup a third format to make the Dinosaurs as tall as they are meant to be... - Carsten  |  IP: Logged Lyle Romer Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1400 From: Davie, FL, USA Registered: May 2002 posted 06-09-2015 08:11 PM                     quote: Jonathan Goeldner Universal releasing only 2K DCP's of this Are you sure it isn't 4k? From IMDB: Cinematographic Process Digital Intermediate (4K) (master format) Panavision Super 70 (source format) (some scenes) Redcode RAW (5K) (6K) (source format) Super 35 (source format) If it is 2k, either IMDB is wrong or they wasted money on both 65mm film and 4k DI.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 06-09-2015 08:30 PM                     Are any movies being distributed in 4K and 3D at the same time? I've had the impression for some time if a movie had a 3D version then it was only 2K. Jurassic World had a 3D version.  |  IP: Logged Jonathan Goeldner Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1360 From: Washington, District of Columbia Registered: Jun 2008 posted 06-09-2015 10:13 PM                     from Deluxe - all of them denote 2K for the 2D/3D - 5.1/7.1 files: File Name: JurassicWorld_FTR-4-2D_F-20_EN-XX-CCAP_US-13-INT-TD_51-HI-VI-DBOX_2K_UP_20150526_DLA_IOP_OV JurassicWorld_FTR-4-2D_F-20_EN-XX-CCAP_US-13-INT-TD_71-HI-VI-DBOX_2K_UP_20150526_DLA_IOP_VF JurassicWorld_FTR-5-3D_F-20_EN-XX-CCAP_US-13-INT-TD_51-HI-VI-DBOX_2K_UP_20150526_DLA_IOP-3D_OV JurassicWorld_FTR-5-3D_F-20_EN-XX-CCAP_US-13-INT-TD_71-HI-VI-DBOX_2K_UP_20150526_DLA_IOP-3D_VF  |  IP: Logged Lyle Romer Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1400 From: Davie, FL, USA Registered: May 2002 posted 06-09-2015 10:37 PM                     Why would you bother filming part on 65mm and then release it in 2K?  |  IP: Logged Annli Com Expert Film Handler Posts: 140 From: ShibuPaul-India Registered: May 2014 posted 06-09-2015 11:24 PM                        Dear All This is INDIAN Version CPL On Jurrasic World JurassicWorld_FTR-3-3D_F-20_EN-XX_IN_51-DBOX_2K_UP_20150519_DUK_IOP-3D_OV With Instruction Note JURASSIC WORLD ATTENTION THEATER MANAGERS & PROJECTIONISTS: IMPORTANT INFORMATION REGARDING “JURASSIC WORLD” DCP SET UP FOR A FLAT SHOW (1.85:1), BUT THE FEATURE CONTENT IS 2.00:1 ASPECT RATIO. THE SMALL BLACK BARS ON THE TOP AND BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN ARE NORMAL. THANK YOU!  |  IP: Logged Justin Hamaker Film God Posts: 2253 From: Lakeport, CA USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 06-10-2015 01:49 AM                        I just programmed my screens for the Jurassic World 2.0:1 ratio. It was actually a bit easier than for Tomorrowland. Maybe because I just did Tomorrowland and wasn't having to refresh my memory as I went. One thing I discovered is you will definitely want to use the flat version for all trailers. Flat trailers for flat movies fill the frame completely with minimal cropping. But a scope trailer for a flat movie only fills about 2/3 of the screen. With scope movies there was virtually no difference between flat and scope trailers - both contained pretty much the exact same amount of letterboxing and filled the screen side to side. For anyone in need of a framing chart, I threw one together this afternoon. This is my first attempt at a framing chart and it could use some tweaking, but it works. 2.0:1 Framing Chart  |  IP: Logged Marcel Birgelen Film God Posts: 3357 From: Maastricht, Limburg, Netherlands Registered: Feb 2012 posted 06-10-2015 03:39 AM                     THE SMALL BLACK BARS ON THE TOP AND BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN ARE NORMAL. THANK YOU! Translates to: We don't give a flying f*ck about presentation quality. Thank you! quote: Lyle Romer Why would you bother filming part on 65mm and then release it in 2K? Because bigger pixels make bigger dinosaurs! But the real reason is probably because it was targeted as a 3D release right from the get go. Also, the lack of an Atmos mix is just another sign they really couldn't bother much about the quality of the release.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 06-10-2015 05:46 AM                     Justin, The title in the target as well as the file name are for 2.2:1 but the target dimenions out for 2:1. As for commentary on the target...not bad for a quickie. Generally the dimension lines should not have any anti-aliasing on them. Your horizontal lines are fine, though 5 pixels tall. The vertical lines are anti-aliased and 6 pixelish wide. Also, consider a single primary color (e.g. GREEN) for your focus targets (grids). You don't want convergence or chromatic aberrations to skew ones judgement on where focus is.  |  IP: Logged

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