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German Marin
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From: Verbania (VB), Italy
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 - posted 11-09-2016 08:08 AM      Profile for German Marin   Email German Marin   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
It isn't a "normal problem", we have 261 series 2 Barco and in 6 years we've never change any CCB. Often the problem is the ICP and a reseat is enough to solve the problem or rarely an ICP recovery procedure. In other cases we had to change the Backplane. My opinion is that the problem in not the CCB but it is suffering from another source.

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Gavin Lewarne
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 - posted 11-09-2016 10:58 AM      Profile for Gavin Lewarne   Email Gavin Lewarne   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yeah, but that doesn't account for the times ive replaced ICP,HDSDI, Fan Controller AND backplane, only to find the CCB replacement fixes whatever issue I'm having

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Marco Giustini
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 - posted 11-09-2016 12:09 PM      Profile for Marco Giustini   Email Marco Giustini   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Gavin, German has a much higher number of machines and his POV seems sound. Yes, a CCB can fail but it is not something that happens regularly.
I agree with the external cause scenario.

Alternatively, maybe a bad batch of SMPS or maybe Backplanes?

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Gavin Lewarne
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 - posted 11-09-2016 01:28 PM      Profile for Gavin Lewarne   Email Gavin Lewarne   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well, I dunno.

Ive got the projector electronics on a (very large) UPS, which is its only load. Ive had the SMPS swapped twice, the backplane twice, 1 ICP swap, one HDSDI+Enigma swap, 2 LPS swaps (first one failed, 2nd one just had super noisy fan bearings), 1 fan controller swap. And yet, still, 95% of the time I report an issue to DcineX it eventually gets fixed with a CCB swap out. Every time I report an issue ive already tried reseating all the boards and done a full reflash and it almost always never fixes it.

Projection room is HVAC temp and humidity controlled and all my electrical loads are split quite evenly over three phases. Never even had so much as a breaker trip.

The projector gets its yearly service, the filters are cleaned every 2 weeks and at the slightest hint of a noisy fan I get that replaced as well. I take good care of my gear, but for whetever reason, CCBs are the one thing that always fail, in some manner, here.

I don't deny there are external causes, and I'm not saying that its rarely an actual hardware fault - but whatever the barco firmware does, it gets messed up eventually.

And don't forget, I'm sure that most of the replacement boards ive had are someone elses returned ones just reflashed in a jig, I don't think ive ever had a new one.

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Marco Giustini
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 - posted 11-09-2016 01:43 PM      Profile for Marco Giustini   Email Marco Giustini   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Gavin Lewarne
Ive had the SMPS swapped twice, the backplane twice, 1 ICP swap, one HDSDI+Enigma swap, 2 LPS swaps (first one failed, 2nd one just had super noisy fan bearings), 1 fan controller swap. And yet, still, 95% of the time I report an issue to DcineX it eventually gets fixed with a CCB swap out
Gosh! Barco are not so bad! If all Barco's were as bad our motorways would be clogged by BARCO lorries carrying spare parts! [Wink]

Nice to meet someone actually caring for their projector BTW! Sorry the projector is not returning the love! [Smile]

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Gavin Lewarne
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MArco, I would be quite happy if my projector reciprocated the love I how it. And for the first 2 years, it was grand. But once it got to the 3 year old stage stuff just stated to snowball.

BUT, its had a lot swapped out in the last 2 years and for the last 6 months has been behaving itself flawlessly.

On the flip side, never had so much as a squeak of nonsense from my dolby server and sound, or any of my other ancillary equipment.

Also, sent you a PM [Smile]

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