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Mark Gulbrandsen
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 - posted 06-20-2018 10:14 AM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I was actually given a date once that past that parts will be available if they still have them in stock 2019 or 20920 comes to mind. As nice and shiny as Dolbly's GUI may be, I just can't see in this day and age of pushing what will soon be an obsolete piece of gear. DC gear in general has a short enough life span as it is. And Doremi is even worse about this.

I'll add that so far GDC is the only supplier that has been able to keep any of their units fully functioning and still supply parts and support for all of them to date [Big Grin] . How can they do that?

Mark

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Dave Macaulay
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 - posted 06-20-2018 10:47 AM      Profile for Dave Macaulay   Email Dave Macaulay   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
"Going for ShowVault and DP4K32B"

Why are you still trying to sell him on an EOL Dolby DSS, and keeping an obsolete DP3000?

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Steve Guttag
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 - posted 06-20-2018 11:16 AM      Profile for Steve Guttag   Email Steve Guttag   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Mark, thus far, I've yet to retire any DSS200/DSS220 servers. I can't claim the same of the GDC. Failure rates are not even in the same ballpark. We, recently, saw an uptick in CAT745 issues (read 2 units) but Dolby repaired for very low $$$ (couple hundred, as I recall).

Note, It would appear that GDC is removing the SX2001 and SX2000AR and SX3000 from their line up in 2018 in favor of the SR1000 (new) and SX4000 (existing and primarily to serve DTS-X theatres).

OT...the SR1000 might be the type of server to get because it can handle Series 1 (with its dock) or Series 2 (it is an IMB so it can fit into a standard IMB card slot).

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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 - posted 06-21-2018 11:48 AM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Out of 334 GDC installs, I've had approximately two media blocks fail in old servers. Although these were just early dead battery certificate loss type of failures, both customers chose the new route and one of those old GDC servers has been functioning really well as a TMS for going on three years. Both those could have been put back in service if they had wanted to with either a replacement media block or the IMB upgrade kit. And unlike you, I have not had a single IMB media block failure. I think they do get better cooling in the NEC's than in the other two brands though... And I am still awaiting edge connector issues. Now, I have treated all the drive in location NEC edge connectors with De-Oxit at the suggestion of a long time NEC employee "down under". But no others...

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Steve Guttag
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I've definitely had SX2001 mediablocks fail (Several), IMBs fail (2000AR and SX3000). In fact, with the SX3000, there is no part of it I haven't had fail (PSD, drives and the 3000 itself). It is telling that the 3000 makes its exit this year.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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 - posted 06-21-2018 12:43 PM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well, none have failed here, and with 334 installs... you would think one or two would have failed. But no. So it has to be the projectors that have inadaquate air flow that these are failing in. Christies are famous for media block failures, usually their own media block though, but more likely failure from the board being mounted in a vertical position. Hot running parts don't always cool properly that way.

Mark

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Brad Miller
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Mark - please stop with this nonstop trolling and constant GDC/NEC salesman thing you keep doing. We get it.

To summarize:
*Any GDC or NEC equipment installed and/or serviced by Mark Gulbrandsen never, ever, ever, ever, ever fails.

*Any equipment which is NOT GDC or NEC installed and/or serviced by Mark Gulbrandsen is total shit and fails constantly and anyone that uses them is a total idiot.

We got it! Please stop.

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Leo Enticknap
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I have to agree with Mark about the vertically mounted contents of Christie card cages, though. On the very rare occasions that I have to touch a Christie (one of my co-workers is the resident Christie expert, and he is usually sent on the calls that involve tangling with one), the problem is almost always an IMB or an ICP gone bad.

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Steve Guttag
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There may be something to that. The two CAT745s that I had fail were both in Christies. Thus far, no ICP failures in Christie though. I've had them fail in NEC and Barco though.

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