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Author Topic: Alita Battle Angel 3d light level verification Paul H. Rayton Expert Film Handler Posts: 210 From: Los Angeles, CA , USA Registered: Aug 2003 posted 01-28-2019 09:49 PM                    Well, for that matter, how about "pitchers", as well?  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 01-29-2019 07:20 AM                     In my lifetime, Theatre was the spelling. Just because it changed during my lifetime is no reason for me to change. I strongly suspect that a key influence are the spell checkers used in word processors and other computer programs influencing how the current generations are spelling the word (and others). If the built in spell checkers are loaded with a preference of Theater for the "US Dictionary" then it will correct the misspelling of Theatre. As time goes, the younger generation just goes with that. For me, the first time such device tries to correct me, I click the "Add word" option and never see the admonishment again.  |  IP: Logged Martin McCaffery Film God Posts: 2481 From: Montgomery, AL Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-29-2019 08:08 AM                        FWIW, I have a clipping from 1906 (too big to post here) of a "List of 300 Words The Hereafter in All Messages and Documents From the White House Will Be Printed According to the Recommendation of the Matthews Committee," that Teddy Roosevelt sent out. "Theater" is the "New Form", "Theatre" the old. Of course, he also wanted to change "Suppressed" to "supprest" and "Surprise" to "Surprize." (and the auto correct is going crazy right now) Just quickly scanning the list, it looks like most of the ones that stuck were the "re" to "er" changes.  |  IP: Logged Carsten Kurz Film God Posts: 4340 From: Cologne, NRW, Germany Registered: Aug 2009 posted 01-29-2019 08:25 AM                     Isn't that the same with centre and center? In german school, we are told that '-re' is british english, and '-er' american english. I would guess that british english is more contrained, while american english, with all the international influence, melting, and british ancestry, will practically have it mixed all over. - Carsten  |  IP: Logged Martin McCaffery Film God Posts: 2481 From: Montgomery, AL Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-29-2019 10:01 AM                        Carsten: I speculate that's where the whole theatre/er thing got started. Someone got it in their head that Theatre was British and therefore classier and therefore was only used for legitimate theatre, not the movies. It's very clear that from the late 1800's through the rise of the movie palaces there was no distinguishing between the two. Not sure when it kicked in as a distinguishing thing, but the use was all over the place in naming theatres at least into the 1960's. Just doing a search, I noticed that PBS has dropped Theatre from Masterpiece Theatre. Maybe it just got too confusing.  |  IP: Logged Tony Bandiera Jr Film God Posts: 3067 From: Moreland Idaho Registered: Apr 2004 posted 01-29-2019 10:55 AM                     Ok, since I started this mess: The reason behind my commenting on it is this: When I got started in the business back in the 80's, I heard the same info from two different sources, which flies against the graph Mike posted. Working with RCA Theatre Service, one of the well respected technicians explained that the -re was used to separate cinema from the stage. Working for Knott's Berry Farm as an entertainment tech, The stage venue there was (is?) known as the "Good Time Theater" and the then running attraction was run in the "Cloud Nine Theatre" (Actually it is the Cloud Nine Ballroom, as it was originally built to host dancing of various kinds.) It also introduced me to the old "lamp" vs. "bulb" argument. I ran and maintained the 2 Century projectors for the 3-D movie "Sea Dream" (To my horror, I can STILL remember perfectly the intro and outro to it, as well as most of the music and visuals). When I contacted purchasing to order new Xenon bulbs, the old school live venue crustacean haughtily sniffed, "I don't order bulbs, I only order lamps." (Oh, and don't dare to call a stage fixture a lamp, it is a "luminare") Evidently all of my early mentors were steeped in the old school traditions. I also recall (but cannot remember the specific source,it might be one of the old Cameron or Mitchell projection books) the author emphatically stating that cinema venues "must" be referred to as theatres to distinguish them from the legitimate stage. That sounds about right from the time those were written (1940's - 50's) Those books are still packed away from my move to Idaho, when I can get access to them I'll check again.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-29-2019 11:43 AM                        quote: the old school live venue crustacean haughtily sniffed, "I don't order bulbs, I only order lamps." At the risk of going off on another tangent - I call them bulbs, but they go into the lamp. Or the lamphouse... I would never call it a bulbhouse. It's just like the thing that lights up your living room... it's a lamp, but the device that makes the light is a bulb.  |  IP: Logged Martin McCaffery Film God Posts: 2481 From: Montgomery, AL Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-29-2019 12:56 PM                        Shall we move on to "pop" vs "soda"?  |  IP: Logged James Westbrook Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1133 From: Lubbock, Texas, Usa Registered: Mar 2006 posted 01-29-2019 12:57 PM                     Uhhh...Alita Battle Angel... As of this posting none of the theatres... CINEMAS in my town have their advance tickets up for sale, despite a deadline for Jan 24 to have them up. In my location, the booking has not been confirmed yet. I have heard no reason as to why. I could assume it's due to the memo Fox released, but that would be an assumption. As for theater/theatre thing, I compare it to how people mispronounce the name of the city I live in. This riles up the locals quite a bit and I find it amusing. When I am speaking on the phone with a supplier and they confirm the address as "Loo-bach Texas", I say "Yes." (If you are curious, it's pronounced "Luh Buck.") With my luck, seconds before I post this, the bookings will get confirmed.  |  IP: Logged Frank Cox Film God Posts: 2234 From: Melville Saskatchewan Canada Registered: Apr 2011 posted 01-29-2019 01:41 PM                        Now just imagine telling a supplier that you live on Mosquito Grizzly Bears Head Lean Man First Nation, Saskatchewan. (I suppose the folks who live there would run out of room on the "Address" part of forms.) I've always thought it would be difficult for people who live on Raggedy Ass Road in Yellowknife to order stuff by phone. "Your address is WHAT? Quit wasting my time, Mac." *click*  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 01-29-2019 01:45 PM                     Did we used to use fibre or fiber gears in them moving picture machines?  |  IP: Logged Martin McCaffery Film God Posts: 2481 From: Montgomery, AL Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-29-2019 02:23 PM                        You should be using fiber, according to TR;>  |  IP: Logged Marcel Birgelen Film God Posts: 3357 From: Maastricht, Limburg, Netherlands Registered: Feb 2012 posted 01-29-2019 03:52 PM                     Maybe it depends on the route your 1,37795 inch film takes through your moving picture projector? Language and local habits are some peculiar things. I was always in the impression that in general in British English, the "movie theater" was almost always called a cinema and not a movie theatre. The same discussion can be done regarding "auditorium" v.s. "screen" v.s. "cinema". In Germany for example, a single screen in a muliplex is often refereed to as "Kino" and not "Screen" or "Schirm" or "Leinwand", which always refers to the physical screen. Whereas "Kino" can also mean the whole thing...  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-29-2019 06:51 PM                        quote: James Westbrook I compare it to how people mispronounce the name of the city I live in. This riles up the locals quite a bit and I find it amusing. When I am speaking on the phone with a supplier and they confirm the address as "Loo-bach Texas", I say "Yes." My town of Forsyth gets mispronounced all the time, which I don't understand because it just seems so obvious. Some people say "Forsth" all in one syllable, and others say "For-sith." We have a lot of unpronounceable localities around here, like Wibaux ("wee-boe"), Belle Fourche ("bell foosh"), and my favorite, Meagher County, which is pronounced "mar." Back to Alita Battle Angel - is this shaping up to be the first high-profile flop of 2019? I have heard zero buzz on it, and my own level of excitement for it is below minimum. But maybe I'm missing something.  |  IP: Logged Carsten Kurz Film God Posts: 4340 From: Cologne, NRW, Germany Registered: Aug 2009 posted 01-29-2019 06:55 PM                     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alita:_Battle_Angel There's a special fan crowd attached to the character, let's see... - Carsten  |  IP: Logged

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