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Paul Linfesty
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From: Bakersfield, CA, USA
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 - posted 05-06-2002 12:13 AM      Profile for Paul Linfesty   Email Paul Linfesty   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well, I "experienced" this film at the Arclight (Cinerama Dome) and the theatre was only about a fourth full for the 10am show. Unfortunately, the print already had two or three black scratches running throughout the film on the right side of the image, not to mention specks of dirt here and there. In the afternoon, the theatree had NO sold out shows posted. I just wonder how long it will be before prices are bumped back to the going rate in LA (my ticket was $14.00!) And if you're going to do reserved seating, you SHOULD let ther customer choose where he wants to sit ( like a legit play). But that wasnt an option given to me, even when I asked. And I expected seats better than the standard plastic-backed seats that UA was installing before the stadium craze. The old Dome seats even had thick padded BACKS!

To the movie itself, SPIDERMAN had its moments, especially in the first half of the film. But never once did I empathize with Parker. This was just another comic book adventure, with a villian one couldn't take seriously with that ridiculous mask.There was som much character jumping it became pretty exhaustive trying to keep up. I think filmmakers need to go back to viewing these films on the giant screens they show to the public on instead of their computer screens. This doesnt have the feeling of a classic (which I felt the Superman (1978) did.

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Dave Williams
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From: Salt Lake City, UT, USA
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David S. wrote...

"Imagine: This fragile print has already been run through one of those antique film-destroying mechanical projector things at least 8 times and it hasn't been ruined yet!! Take that Steven Soderbergh! (Don't tell Steven that reels 4 & 5 both had that wavy rolling line thing for a few seconds, or that reel 5 seemed to have soft focus but the rest of the movie was razor sharp)."

I must have missed something somewhere. What does Steven Soderbergh have to do with Spiderman?

Dave

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Brad Miller
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Steve Soderburgh (or however it is spelled) apparently has a very bad projectionist in his studio screening room, so bad in fact that the guy can not run a film one time without it being noticeably dirty and scratched. Now Stevie has resorted to using a consumer level NTSC miniDV camera to shoot his next movie. Digital is ALWAYS better!

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Evans A Criswell
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Attendance: 2002/05/06 16:30, Regal Hollywood 18, Huntsville, AL, Auditorium 10, Flat

I decided to wait until a weeknight to see this movie because I figured the theatres would be crazily busy on the weekend nights for this particular movie. Some people from work wanted to go, so on the spur of the moment, we did.

After reading all of the positive reviews, I wasn't as impressed with the movie as I thought I'd be. As a computer scientist, I looked closely at the spider web graphics at the beginning of the film to see if I could notice any aliasing when strands of web went nearly horizontal on the screen. I did not notice any, although I was sitting in the next to last row.

As for the Peter Parker character, it was obvious to me that he was the character I should sympathize with and pull for in the film, but a few of the things he did made me wonder, like when he got mad at his uncle and told him to stop pretending to be his father. The way the movie ended surprised me (and got some "what the hell?" type of responses from the audience as well).

As for the presentation quality, it was excellent, but this was the worst theatre experience I've ever had due to all of the talkers, seat kickers, and cell-phone users sitting all around our group. Both the row behind us and the row in front of us were full of people of a certain characteristic that is not PC to mention that talked during the entire movie non-stop. At times, I missed movie dialog because their talking was louder. We were outnumbered by these people and were in no good position to ask them to stop talking. These people frequently hit our seats with their feet and put their feet on the top of the seats beside me. Every now and then, a cell phone would go off and I'd hear one of them having a conversation on the phone. If I were the type of person that only went to the theatre every few months, after this experience, I would likely have never had a desire to go to a theatre again. Fortunately, I know that this extreme case is the exception rather than the rule.

Another weirdness about this visit: From a previous showing, I'd been given an "emergency ticket" and was told there were no restrictions on it (as I've always been told when given one of these). I tried to use it and was told "We're not taking these for this movie yet." I guess "No restrictions" does not mean "no restrictions".


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Greg Mueller
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Is the reason people don't teach their kids manners, because they don't know any? Or is it just "cool" not to have manners. I am frequently amazed at how little respect people have for other people in public anymore.

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David Stambaugh
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It isn't just kids either. I see adults putting their feet on the chairs in front of them all the time. Sometimes if someone in the row behind you has their feet up on a seat in your row, every time they shift their feet around (which seems like every 15 seconds) the entire row of seats shakes. Very distracting. Some adults talk out loud throughout the movie like they are in their home living room. As far as cell phones, every other slide during the slide show should be a reminder to turn the damn things off.

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Ron Lacheur
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speaking about manners...the Men's bathrooms are nasty. Why do people mess up the place by beinging gross?

David and Evans,

why didn't you get an usher to boot them out? or at least tell them to be quiet?


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John Pytlak
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Saw "Spiderman" at the 7:00pm screening in Auditorium #4 of the Regal Eastview 13 near Rochester last night. Generally excellent presentation. Almost 20 minutes of trailers, but the audience seemed to enjoy the selection of summer movies. The "Spiderman" print was very clean and free of scratches, "live action" scenes were razor sharp, scenes with digital effects less sharp, but blended well. Color and tone scale excellent throughout. Digital sound was well balanced and problem-free. The "flat" 1.85:1 aspect ratio suited the picture, as there were many shots with strong vertical compositions. Only problem noted was an occasional flicker in the light output, perhaps due to an older lamp. Saw at least three repeats of the larger yellow anti-piracy code dots in reel 2.

This theatre still shows 35mm trailers to the lobby area using a rear-projection screen.

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Will Kutler
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Evans,

I make no bones about telling people like that to shut the PHUG Up!, literally, and have almost been into a few fights because of it.

Just the other day I was trying to study in my college library when a woman with a VERY noisy kid came in. The kid would not shut up and she failed to controll it. So I politely told her that the perfect solution would be a stapler, super-glue and duct tape...People around me thought I should be more sympathetic. Why, I asked? After all, this is a place for study, not Romper Room, and yes, I am paying good money for my education, NOW SHUT UP OR GET THE HELL OUT! I think she got the message!

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Mike Heenan
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That's telling her, K-dog! Heh

Spiderman was better than I expected. CGI wasnt too bad other than the beginning where Toby was running over the roof tops. Fun stuff though.

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Rachel Gilardi
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Ron, you think men's bathrooms are bad? You should go in the womens room, at least 10 times worse!!!

As for spiderman, the movie was ok...and that's about it. I didn't 'relate' with the main character, everything that happened to him did not effect me in anyway. But, you have to give it some credit, it is based on the comic and they kept it that way. For example, the cheezy effects while spiderman is swinging from building to building looked quite comedic to me.


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Jerry Chase
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I'll take the bull by the horns and comment on Evan's experience. Screw political correctness, there is a consistent behavior problem with most black action film audiences. I clearly distinguish this audience from black audiences seeing other films, and don't equate it with anything but lack of maturity in a primarily teen and young adult group with a different set of standards for acceptable behavior.

If anyone takes offense at my statements, I ask them to look up the stats on shootings in and around movie theatres, and correlate those shootings to the type of film showing at the time. Facts speak for themselves. Folks may be afraid and bury their heads when PC issues arise, but when there is an issue that affects patron perception and even patron safety, it deserves to be brought forward in a matter-of-fact manner without fearing either PC hushing or blatent racist rhetoric.

A true "hood" black audience at an action film simply has to be experienced firsthand. Think of "Rocky Horror" interaction with the screen characters, customers changing seats, and multiple unrelated conversations going on at the same time and you'll get the beginning of understanding of what it is like. Short of calling in police and alienating most of the audience, there is nothing that can be done to change the behavior of such a group enough to satisfy the average (in this case minority) moviegoer. In these situations, the movie is simply a meeting place, and has far less significance than the social interactions that occur. Anglos needn't feel superior, there are plenty of white counterpart activities, sports events, and even soccer riots being examples.

Action audiences can be rough on the theatre and generate a bad reputation, but they can also be the primary income at an older location. Some theatre owners go out of their way to avoid booking films that will exacerbate the problem, and some just accept it as a fact of life and book in the action to increase attendance. There is no one correct way to respond to such an audience. As long as the majority of any particular audience enjoys experiencing a film in a certain way, and as long as no damage is done, common sense and the bottom line have to dictate policy.

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Evans A Criswell
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A true "hood" black audience at an action film simply has to be experienced firsthand. Think of "Rocky Horror" interaction with the screen characters, customers changing seats, and multiple unrelated conversations going on at the same time and you'll get the beginning of understanding of what it is like.

That's a pretty good description of what was going on in the row in front of our group and the row behind our group, on a small scale. The people were reacting out loud to many things happening in the movie and "talking back" to the characters, as well as having their own conversations and occasionally talking on cell phones. If everyone in the audience does this same thing, then there really is no problem. It's only annoying to people that do not treat a moviegoing experience as a big social gathering. Several of my friends say that getting a group together to go to a movie is usually fun, but is not a good social gathering because there isn't a good way for people to interact. If our group had been in the middle of a group similar to ours and we started talking back to the characters and having our own conversations, I'll bet we'd get thrown out.

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Jerry Chase
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Evans, I've walked out of many restaurants because I didn't care for what was going on, and rather than sitting through a show like this, I'd walk out and demand a refund. If you do decide to stay, shift your focus. Sometimes the dialog to the screen can be more entertaining than the movie. I've heard some doozies.

The seniors down here don't move around as much, but they can be just as offensive in their own way.


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Hillary Charles
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I saw Spider-Man yesterday and encountered similar distractions. I had to tell a couple twice to restrain their children. It's like they thought they were in their living room (right down to the refreshments they sneaked in).

What's happened to the judgement of people when they bring their under-five-year-old children to a PG-13 movie? I pray that they have Green Goblin nightmares for the next month!

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