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Stephen Furley
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From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England
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 - posted 02-23-2003 05:53 AM      Profile for Stephen Furley   Email Stephen Furley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Totally agree with you Joe.

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Hillary Charles
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From: York, PA, USA
Registered: Feb 2001


 - posted 02-23-2003 09:08 AM      Profile for Hillary Charles   Email Hillary Charles   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I agree as well. Moore's work is very entertaining. The way he insinuates himself into uncomfortable situations, whether it be the lobby of a big tobacco company, or getting the head of Nike to confess that their youngest overseas workers are 14, are often hilarious, and always revealing, and containing substance.

The subjects he tackles are so deeply rooted that there are no easy answers. No absolutes. A work like this is not only very entertaining, but also very affecting. Good enough for me.

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Randy Stankey
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From: Erie, Pennsylvania
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 - posted 02-26-2003 11:44 PM      Profile for Randy Stankey   Email Randy Stankey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Sorry, but I didn't care for this one.

If you ask me the title for this movie should have been, Roger and Me Part 2: I got in this time!

It seemed to me, like it was nothing more than a continuation: Flint, Michagan is now a poor town because the General Motors Plant closed down so we all went crazy, moved to Colorado and killed a bunch of people.

I don't like his style of "Ambush Journalism"... Put a guy on camera and trap him into making an ass of himself. Okay, he didn't have to try very hard sometimes. But,heck! Even Chuck Heston played along for a while until pushed too far.

Moore is known for setting up his shots in advance. We have no way of knowing if the Heston interview was staged or not. I'm almost sure the part where he opens people's front doors to see if they are locked was staged. Other times he seems to have picked the most outlandish footage. Okay, that's his style: Lampoon a person/subject to make your point. I just don't like that style much anymore. It worked the first time. Now it's worn thin.

Showing the video footage of the shooting at Columgine H.S.?? Pretty tasteless! Annoying, in fact. If I want to watch people fighting, screaming and trying to kill each other, I'll watch Jerry Springer or something. If I want to watch people get killed on video, I'll rent Faces of Death. I don't want to watch any of that. It's a big "gross-out" to me. Furthermore, he does in his film the very same thing that he decries: Violence and sensationalism. Is he saying that he has to "fight fire with fire?" It's a pretty lame excuse, if you ask me. Oh yeah! Let's ambush the AUDIENCE, even! Let's make them sit through yet ANOTHER repeat of footage of an airplane crashing into the World Trade Center! I didn't watch this film just to be subjected to that crap!

I also agree with others in that this is not really a documentary film. A documentary is where you learn something by watching. This is more of an essay, where the film maker tells you his point of view. Back in the late 80's this kind of thing played well. Now, some frumpy fat guy in a baseball cap doing a spoof on 60 Minutes is just... well... So 80's!

I agreed with some points he made in his film but I didn't agree with others. I'm going to leave what I though about the subject matter out of it because we can discuss that all day long and not get anywhere. As a matter of fact, that's one more thing I didn't like. I sat through this whole film expecting him to break new ground but he did nothing more than sensationalize the very thing he's crying out against.

Good material to start a heated discussion in a bar with... Bad cinema.

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