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Author Topic: KILL BILL Robb Johnston Expert Film Handler Posts: 147 From: St. Louis Suburbs Registered: Nov 1999 posted 10-12-2003 04:17 PM                        But the release dates are sort of clever, especially if Vol II holds firm. volume 1 on 10/10 Volume 2 on 2/20 Only the volume numbers and zeros in the dates, makes it easy to remember.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 10-12-2003 04:23 PM                     Again, this is a Deluxe Labs printing job. They seem to be the only lab using the CRAP code in an offending manner like this. Will someone please bomb the Deluxe building?  |  IP: Logged Richard Miller Film Handler Posts: 33 From: Lafayette, IN, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 10-13-2003 12:36 AM                     I enjoyed the film a lot. The anime sequence was a nice touch considering I thought the whole movie had a certain anime style to it. That's the only other place that I ever see fountains of blood when anyones limbs a chopped off. Other that that, the cinematography was great, the Crap Code was in full effect (that's bad ), and the overall feel of the film was energetic. All in all I can't wait till Feb 20.  |  IP: Logged Paul Linfesty Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1383 From: Bakersfield, CA, USA Registered: Nov 1999 posted 10-13-2003 12:45 PM                     This was an incredible piece of pure cinema. The best of its kind in a long time. Outrageous over-the-top action with incredible cinematography and editing that was "inspired" by, but not exactly copied from older films. Unlike many B movie imitators of late, this film didn't go for any "profound" scenes that would have weighed it down in an attempt to give it "meaning." This is pure trash and relishes in it. A true movie geek like Tarantino understands this is the atrraction of this kind of flick. It is the most pure fun I've had at the movies in a VERY long time. It was REALLY cool to see one of my FAVORITE snipes at the beginning ("Feature presentation") which I first saw in 1969 (although only the "Previews of Coming Attractions" version was showed in Bakersfield at two theatres). I LOVED the music and background "psychedlic" color scheme. Althought they should have stuck this BEFORE the SHAW SCOPE tag. (My other fav was the first GCC drum snipe). (Reviewed at Regal Edwards Bakersfield 14, #1. Projection was outstanding. Extremely bright projection, above 16 standard, but short of strobing. Corner to corner focus and illumination. The print seemed almost grainfree, and was extremely sharp. SRD soundtrack used, and seemed pretty accurate, although distorted from the source music and dialog. But the badly dubbed and recorded source films also sounded this way.) CRAP CODE: RED Dots FILLED throughout the second to last reel that featured MONOCHROME sequences! REALLY stood out, even more than it would have in the color sequences. Why, oh, WHY?  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 10-13-2003 05:18 PM                     I finally was able to check out "Kill Bill" at the Carmike 8 in Lawton. Really cool show. Pretty damned loud too! The gunfire in the film (especially the first shot in the beginning) startled the hell out of me. I heard others in the audience mutter things like, "Jesus Christ!" Picture quality was pretty good for Super35 (though it is billed as "filmed in Panavision"); not a whole lot of visible grain. The only gripes I had with the film involved the pretty low illustrational quality on the anime sequence and the CRAP CODE. Normally, I don't notice the code all that much. But with the red dots blinking on screen over solid white backgrounds in a B&W segment, you have to be blind not to notice it. I guess the copy protection people want to be absolutely sure it shows up on some asshole's VHS-C camcorder. There is a pretty strong level of authenticity to Tarantino's homage to Japanese sword fighting shows and 1970's popular culture (the theme from "Ironside" is cleverly used for dramatic effect). Having lived in Japan for 3 years during my youth, I had to wonder if Tarantino had seen the same sword fighting shows I saw as a kid. Japanese TV has a lot of violent content filled with all sorts of blood spraying theatrics. Even some of the kiddie super hero shows like Ultraman and Kamen Rider would have lots of monster guts and blood showering everywhere. The same kind of style is evident in the film, which makes the violence easier to take. With some of the film taking place in Okinawa, I halfway expect U.S. Marines to be involved in the story somehow. Overall, one of the best things I can say about "Kill Bill" is Tarantino does not hesitate to take risks in offending people. Right from the beginning you know he is NOT out to please everybody. He is making his kind of film with no concessions made for "good taste" or "political correctness". The wishy-washy people can just go rent a Merchant Ivory film.  |  IP: Logged Josh Jones Redhat Posts: 1207 From: Plano, TX Registered: Apr 2000 posted 10-16-2003 07:53 PM                        Yeah, I'm addicted. The only reason I saw this film was because the trailor had bikes in it I ended up really liking the film however, especially since I am an anime fan. The gore is as bad as some of the anime I've seen which helped me connect and made it so funny and over done. I'm definately waiting for the second one On another note, the Cap code was much less noticeable in this print than say the print of "Winged Migration" we had. Some of those dots were about 1/10 the height of the screen, those dots were huge! The patterns on this print were very small, and much less anoying than the previous examples I've seen. The patterns seemed to remain for several frames, and always in the middle of the frame. They looked like alignment patterns. Overall, color in the film was excellent, rich colors were displayed, instead of the blue, washed out prints that have been "the thing" in recent years. Nicely done. Josh  |  IP: Logged Jeff Stuckey Film Handler Posts: 62 From: Oklahoma City, OK, USA Registered: May 2003 posted 10-20-2003 03:06 PM                     You know, all this talk about Cap Codes and their distractions. I totally agree. But what's even more ironic...what shows up on the internet? A complete WORKPRINT of KILL BILL. It actually started showing up on the net a couple days before the 10/10 release. Where there's a will...  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 10-20-2003 03:13 PM                        quote: Where there's a will... How do you know that Will did it?  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 10-20-2003 03:18 PM                        The blood fountains also reminded me of the ending of Kurosawa`s "Ran" where the evil woman is decapitated and you can see a her blood spraying the wall. While you can not actually see her head coming off (the camera follows the motion of the sword quickly to the wall), it was a drastic effect. But noone ever complained about this - it was seen as a movie with art factor. BTW, I found the end where the top of Ms Liu`s head gets chopped off really stupid - the brain peeped out above the cutline. That makes no sense. Of course, it also awoke unhappy memories of "Hannibal".  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 10-20-2003 05:51 PM                     The showering geysers of blood reminded me more of a couple Monty Python skits --or the scene where King Arthur meets the black knight guarding the little tiny bridge in "Monty Python and the Holy Grail".  |  IP: Logged Jesse August Film Handler Posts: 58 From: Vancouver British Columbia Registered: Jul 2003 posted 10-23-2003 09:55 PM                     I saw it on Tuesday at the Globe theatre in Winnipeg, and will have to see it again somewhere else. BAD sound (just the speakers behind the screen), out of focus, bad framing (the sub-titles were a third the way up the screen, not to mention you could see a small sliver of the top of the frame at the bottom of the screen). All in all BAD SHOWMANSHIP. The only positive thing I can say is the print looked to be in good shape. Come on Globe pull up your socks.  |  IP: Logged Paul Mayer Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under! Posts: 3836 From: Albuquerque, NM Registered: Feb 2000 posted 10-24-2003 12:32 AM                        Finally got to see this today. The fountains-of-blood reminded me of all those '60s and '70s chambara films my grandparents took me to see when I was a kid. Was a nice touch in the credits to memorialize the big names that made that genre along with revenge films so much fun to watch (among others the late great Charles Bronson, director Fukasaku Kinji, and Katsu Shintaro, who played the blind swordsman Zatoichi in all 26 films of that series and the "reasonably honest" Edo-era cop Hanzo the Razor. Sonny Chiba's character is named Hanzo--perhaps as an homage?) A lot of the camera setups looked very familiar. It certainly looks like Tarantino did his homework. Yeah, the anime sequence looked almost like animated storyboard drawings rather than finished cells, but I guess that's the intended look. Production IG (ING) is a major animation studio in Japan with a lot of famous anime titles under its belt. Need to acknowledge the dialog coaching. Normally I cringe at English-speaking actors trying to do Japanese dialog, which generally sound as bad as most Japanese actors' attempts at English . But everyone here acquitted themselves quite well, especially Julie Dreyfus. She came very close to sounding like a native speaker. Well done! Another thing--killer music selections! I enjoyed this one a lot. Very much looking forward to Volume 2! [ 12-08-2003, 02:23 AM: Message edited by: Paul Mayer ]  |  IP: Logged Joe Beres Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 606 From: Minneapolis, MN, USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 10-28-2003 02:56 PM                     I must say that I liked this film a whole lot better than I expected to. I think Tarantino is an extremely overrated filmmaker. His films are not very original, and he wears his influences on his sleeve. He is essentially a very skilled thief, and in this case, I think that is ok. Many (especially American) filmmakers have tried to capture the spirit, look and feel of Asian Cinema, from Kurosawa, to Shaw Brothers Martial Arts films, and Japanese anime, but never has anyone been so successful. If you are a fan of any of the above genres, I would recommend a viewing.  |  IP: Logged Christian Appelt Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 505 From: Frankfurt, Germany Registered: Dec 2001 posted 10-31-2003 06:41 PM                     I have seen KILL BILL twice. Missed about ten minutes of Reel #1 arguing with the theatre crew about focus issues, so I had to see it again. The prints over here in Germany really SUCK. Reel #1 seems to be the worst in terms of imaga sharpness, ALL reels have soft focus in long shots, but in #1 not even the character`s eyes in closeup shots look in focus. There was a kind of non-grain noise all over the film, maybe due to the Digital Intermediate, I don`t know. But the absolutely WORST thing about these release prints was the total lack of image steadiness. Have not seen such bad steadiness in months! The problems mentioned may have something to do with the necessity of putting new subtitles over the Japanese (in German translation), maybe it was screwed up somewhere during that process. Some distributors must want to kill the theatrical business, judging from the product they send to the screen. Liked & enjoyed the movie, loved the b&w sequence!  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 10-31-2003 06:53 PM                        Don't know how your prints were made, but bipack printing, sometimes still used for subtitles, can affect sharpness and steadiness. A 2K digital intermediate is 2K, not 4K.  |  IP: Logged

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