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Author Topic: Peter Jackson's King Kong Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 12-18-2005 05:59 PM                        What the hell is a "V-Rex"?  |  IP: Logged Greg Mueller Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1687 From: Port Gamble, WA Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-18-2005 06:44 PM                        Virtual Rex  |  IP: Logged Kurt Zupin Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 989 From: Maricopa, Arizona Registered: Oct 2004 posted 12-18-2005 09:03 PM                     LOL, not sure what V-Rex stands for but thats what Peter Jackson says they are. Monte-I know what your saying, and I agree  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 12-18-2005 09:24 PM                     Okay, watched "King Kong" this afternoon. It was a pretty good movie, probably even worth a repeat viewing or two. But I don't agree with the four star reviews some critics have been giving it. It rates at least a solid three stars for me. I guess the main flaw with the show is that it could have been tightened up in a few places. The early scenes dragged in a few places. Sure, there is the necessary character introduction and development stuff. But that could have been handled in a faster and more entertaining way. The movie really gets its legs underneath it on Skull Island. Lots pretty cool action set pieces there. The Kong versus T-Rex battle is obviously the best one. The scene down in the canyone with the giant bugs and man-eating worms was pretty cool -but it will turn off lots of more squeamish people from repeat viewings. With all the time spent on the early scenes, I was a bit puzzled by the immediate jump from Skull Island to New York. What did they do to get King Kong on the ship? Lots of other questions follow that. But the show chooses to cut immediately to "opening night" for the 8th wonder in the world in New York. On the visual effects, the King Kong character was handled very impressively. It's easy to tell Weta Digital spent a lot of time studying gorilla movement and behavior to give King Kong some personality. The T-Rex versus Kong battle was cool. However, some of the spiraling and circling camera movement made it difficult to keep track of just what was happening. Peter Jackson pulled the same thing in "Fellowship of the Ring" with the Cave Troll in the Mines of Moria. The flying camera work was enough to make a viewer queasy. The pole vaulting native did look a bit fake, although it wasn't as bad as I was expecting. Pretty good surround track on the show. Naomi Watts is looking off into the forest and you hear all these trees crunching and snapping behind you in the surrounds.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-18-2005 10:14 PM                     So far I've managed to make it to the end of reel-2 on my second attempt at viewing it. The steam engines in that steam ship were a nice sight, the rest is way too lame to consider a third viewing attempt. Mark  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 12-18-2005 11:05 PM                        Speaking of Skull Island, what the hell was up with the scene where Adrian Brody was typing "SKULL" onto the piece of paper? There were zooms in to each key and massive sound as each key hit the paper. All for the word "Skull". It was perhaps the worst part of the movie. It was trying to be dramatic or something but it just came off as, well, lame. I want an explanation for this and the reason for its inclusion.  |  IP: Logged Lyle Romer Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1400 From: Davie, FL, USA Registered: May 2002 posted 12-18-2005 11:11 PM                     Joe, I think that Peter Jackson was inserting some educational value. Since the youth of today don't spell very well, he was just teaching everybody how to spell "Skull." I agree that the scene was stupid and not needed.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 12-18-2005 11:11 PM                     quote: Mark Gulbrandsen So far I've managed to make it to the end of reel-2 on my second attempt at viewing it. The steam engines in that steam ship were a nice sight, the rest is way too lame to consider a third viewing attempt. Just start watching it from the time the ship hits the rocks at Skull Island. You'll save yourself most of the pain in doing that. Also, is anyone else pretty familiar with the footage shown on the trailers versus what was actually used in the movie? In the first teaser, there's this scene where Denham is directing Ann Darrow on the beach and making her scream. That bit wasn't in the movie (or if it was I missed it -I did have to hit the bathroom, damn you, Mr. Pibb). And then there was another action shot with the black fellow firing his Thompson .45 caliber machine gun from a cliff at a drooling 'raptor. That didn't seem to be in the theatrical cut either. Hmm. Beginning to put it together now. We'll probably see a 4 hour version showing those cut scenes and possibly with how the guys got Kong on the ship and transported to New York. quote: Joe Redifer I want an explanation for this and the reason for its inclusion. I think the overly dramatic typing of "SKULL" was a subliminal marketing ploy on the part of Universal to revive sales of their catalog DVD title, "The Skulls."  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 12-18-2005 11:33 PM                  I totally agree with Mark. Other than some of the CGI stuff, the film sucked.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 12-19-2005 12:45 AM                        I was on the edge of my seat as SKULL was typed. So much dramatic tension going on there. I figured that something exciting was about to happen, like the typewriter exploding in his face when he hit that last "L", or maybe a zombie drops from the ceiling or something. But then nothing happened. Maybe that's what it feels like to be on the verge of impotence? There are some wankers who are calling this movie racist - that the plot symbolizes how western colonialism went to third world countries, enslaved and exploited the native population, and [most importantly] individuals of African decent love white chicks.  |  IP: Logged Richard Greco Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1180 From: Plant City, FL Registered: Nov 2003 posted 12-19-2005 12:59 AM                     Ok, Joe....Did you happen to notice the sneaky little shit that worked on the boat down where they were? Carl didn't want anyonw on the ship to know, but Jack typed it and spelled it....Still doesn't explain why the drama, but....oh f&*^ it. On to my review!! Damn, this was a REALLY intense movie. I honestly didn't even notice the time pass. It did lag in a few parts, and the natives on the island really annoyed me. I do agree that I'd liked to have seen how they got Kong on the ship. Overall, Extremely well done by Peter Jackson. I expect this to get many nods in February. Jack Black was great. I have been a fan of Adrian Brody since "Oxygen", Expect him to get a nod in Feb too. Naomi Watts gets my Greco Factor of course....Even in her circa 1930's clothes, she still gets a 7/10 especially when the shot where you could see right down her shirt!!! Overall, the film was one of the most intense I've seen this year! Definately a 9.5/10 for me. .5 deducted due to the lack of story in how they got Kong to NYC.  |  IP: Logged Kyle Anderson Film Handler Posts: 86 From: Tyler, TX, USA Registered: Dec 2005 posted 12-19-2005 02:04 AM                     "With all the time spent on the early scenes, I was a bit puzzled by the immediate jump from Skull Island to New York. What did they do to get King Kong on the ship? Lots of other questions follow that. But the show chooses to cut immediately to "opening night" for the 8th wonder in the world in New York." This is a throwback to the original KK, which also left that part out. It's actually something of a famous omission.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 12-19-2005 02:39 AM                     quote: Kyle Anderson was the last to post bit puzzled by the immediate jump from Skull Island to New York Interesting. Jeff Bridges and Charles Grodin didn't explain that one either in the '76 De Laurentiis version. But, you least saw Kong inside the ship's hold and good ol' Jessica Lange would have to fall into that hold with Kong just to get some attention.  |  IP: Logged Paul Gordon Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 580 From: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Registered: Aug 2005 posted 12-19-2005 07:19 AM                        King Kong at the World Exchange (Empire 7) in Ottawa Attendance: 80? for a 4:10 matt This film is way to long!! when a couple of buddies found out that it would be 3 hours and 20mins with all the trailers they left the theatre and got a refund... they wanted to watch the Toronto VS Ottawa hockey game instead. Anyway the film has its moments.. I wanted more from Jack Black though and some of the dino stuff was a little much. Also the entire print had full frame scratches down it on the right side, the film has been out less then a week!!! Poor King... the ending on the Empire State building is cool.. but then again it was done pretty well in 1933.. Also how did they move Kong onto the ship after they knocked him out? Overall I give it a 2.5 out of 5  |  IP: Logged Olivia Coleman Film Handler Posts: 53 From: Bend, OR USA Registered: Jun 2005 posted 12-19-2005 01:25 PM                        quote: Bobby Henderson It's easy to tell Weta Digital spent a lot of time studying gorilla movement and behavior to give King Kong some personality. Actually it was movement made by the same guy who did Golem. Watched a making of on HBO...  |  IP: Logged

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