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Carl Martin
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From: Oakland, CA, USA
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posted 01-17-2006 03:56 AM

some time before the movie opened, a projectionist who had screened it in some context was gushing about how explicit the sex scenes were, in fact, that he found it hard to believe that the actors weren't actually doing the deed. now, this is a gushy guy by nature, but i feel like either the print he saw might have had more action in it than the one i saw, or it was a showprint with a lot more detail in the darkness than ours.

and yes, we're showing the complete film as shipped to us (right, eric?) [Wink]

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carl

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Eric Hooper
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posted 01-17-2006 11:19 AM

quote: Carl Martin
and yes, we're showing the complete film as shipped to us (right, eric?)

Yes, you are. [thumbsup]

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Stefano Boni
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posted 01-17-2006 09:48 PM

Funny, but I did not interpret the "flashback" scene towards the end of the film, as being a flashback at all. In the context of the scene, and its placement in it, I saw that clip as being older Jack's fantasy about what could have been had Ennis been more committed to, and unafraid of their relationship.

I realize it could be a flashback too, but I think I would have bought that more if we had seen a portion of that scene earlier in the film (hence the "flashback"). As it is, it seems ambiguous as to if it really happened, much in the same way as Ennis' "flash" when he is in the phone booth talking to Jack's wife. Even in the short story, it's more suggestive then explicit.

I have to say I did expect slightly more explicit scenes between the two leads, when I saw this the first time, simply because of all the hype. Seeing it a second and third time, none of that seemed to bother me. I think what they did was fine.

As far as extra deleted scenes, if you happened to watch the Golden Globes, last night, there was a glimpse of something like that among the clips shown of the film; a brief shot of a shirtless Ennis standing on what looked like a fallen tree, as he stared down into the river.

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Paul Linfesty
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posted 01-17-2006 10:30 PM

quote: Stefano Boni
there was a glimpse of something like that among the clips shown of the film; a brief shot of a shirtless Ennis standing on what looked like a fallen tree, as he stared down into the river.

That was also in the trailer shown in theatres (which the Golden Globes used part of for their "clip.") There was also a line in the preview that didn't make the final cut, when Jack says that "now that we're going to be working together, we might as well start drinking together."

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Monte L Fullmer
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posted 01-20-2006 02:38 AM

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Paul Mayer
Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under!

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posted 01-20-2006 01:36 PM

quote: Monte L Fullmer
Then Hollyrock would be given a response from the public that these are the types of movies that should be made.

Uh Monte, the Oscar isn't a "People's Choice" award. Oscar winners are determined by AMPAS members only - the public has nothing to do with it. The Oscars merely represent what Hollywood thinks of itself. Which renders any significance of the Oscar award to anyone not a member of AMPAS largely meaningless.

I suppose there will be some people that will go see this picture if it wins any of the major Oscars simply because it won, lured in by the supposed glamour of Hollywood and its bandwagon appeal. They are the mindless sheep that make up most of today's movie audience. But I suspect many more people already have their minds made up on this one. Many of those people will not pay to see this film no matter how many Oscars it may win.

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Jeremy Jorgenson
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posted 01-20-2006 01:41 PM

As much as I agree that studio execs like to jump on the bandwagon of a successful formula ... I don't think that the only criteria for "successful" of the execs is whether a film wins a best picture Oscar or not. Each of the three films [Monte] listed has been quite successful in its own way. I think to say that Hollywood is going to make one of these types of pictures, dependant on the outcome of March 5th is oversimplifying it quite a bit.
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David Stambaugh
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posted 01-20-2006 03:43 PM

quote: Paul Mayer
I suppose there will be some people that will go see this picture if it wins any of the major Oscars simply because it won, lured in by the supposed glamour of Hollywood and its bandwagon appeal. They are the mindless sheep that make up most of today's movie audience.

Is it possible some might be lured in by the opportunity to see a good movie?

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James R. Hammonds, Jr
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posted 01-20-2006 04:02 PM

Just my guess, but he may have been referring to prople who otherwise might not have seen it.

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Paul Mayer
Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under!

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posted 01-20-2006 04:02 PM

By mid-March? Nah. Anyone going to see it for that reason would have seen it by then.

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David Stambaugh
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posted 01-20-2006 04:51 PM

If they're persuaded to see it by all the publicity and awards, and they hate it, they can claim they were suckered in. Otherwise they get to see a good movie they might otherwise have missed.

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Monte L Fullmer
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posted 01-20-2006 05:02 PM

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Jeremy Jorgenson
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posted 01-20-2006 05:15 PM

Well, like I said before, I don't think it would ever be JUST the fact that a film won best picture. But, more comments on this would be better suited for a new thread. [Smile]

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Mike Blakesley
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posted 01-20-2006 05:18 PM

quote: Monte L Fullmer
really wonder if the influence between the awards people (both Globe and AMPAS) could make the movie makers swing to a trend that the award winning movie's themes.

I doubt it. I don't recall a rash of movies about classical composers the year after "Amadeus" won, and there wasn't a slew of romantic disaster films after "Titanic" either. It all boils down to what the movie suits think will put $ in the till, whether the films are award-winners or not.

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Phil Hill
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posted 01-20-2006 11:02 PM

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