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Monte L Fullmer
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It really knocked down the walls yesterday at some of the screens around here, but do agree: will it still have legs in two weeks...

..seems to be the trend lately with all of these movies released - no legs.

-Monte

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Dennis Benjamin
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quote:
I can't get in the Chinese for free because they are run by Karotes or some weird-ass company like that and they aren't friends with anyone, so no outsiders allowed. For the next movie I see, I will choose the Continental so I can complain about their dim picture!

Kerasotes?
If you don't pay for your movies, you should only expect to get what you paid for.

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Joe Redifer
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LOL. So how do you provide a crappy show to the two people in your audience that got passes but a great show to everyone else who paid? Great logic there. Only a manager could think of something like that.

I expect each theater to do their best whether I pay or not... as they should be doing. Though if I paid I'd probably escalate the problems all the way up to corporate.

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Mike Blakesley
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quote: Monte L Fullmer
seems to be the trend lately with all of these movies released - no legs.
Movies this summer have been pretty leggy for us. Up, Museum, Star Trek, even X Men had decent staying power. We could have played Museum for a 3rd week which is unheard of for a movie we didn't open on the break.
quote: Joe Redifer
I expect each theater to do their best whether I pay or not... as they should be doing.
I agree. A show for 1 person deserves the same treatment as a full house.

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Bobby Henderson
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3 weeks is having "legs"? Well, maybe that might be true for a single or twin in a small town.

Still, I think Titanic and Forrest Gump have been the only movies released in recent years that really truly had legs. Those were movies that absolutely endured weeks on end.

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Mike Blakesley
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quote: Bobby Henderson
3 weeks is having "legs"? Well, maybe that might be true for a single or twin in a small town.
Right. We get the occasional movie that's played-out after three days. (With "Shaft" it was one day.) That makes for some long nights, lemme tell ya.

quote: Bobby Henderson
I think Titanic and Forrest Gump have been the only movies released in recent years that really truly had legs.
What about "My Big Fat Greek Wedding," "Gran Torino," The first "Pirates of the Caribbean," or "The Sixth Sense." I'm sure I could think of a lot more if I looked at our booking list over the years.

Sorry for drifting the thread. I haven't seen the Transformers flick yet but based on the reviews and comments here I don't think I want to.

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Joe Redifer
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I played My Big Fat Greek Wedding for over 6 months. That's legs. Unfortunately My Life in Ruins has none to speak of.

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Monte L Fullmer
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Also, it all depends of the market area on how "Legs" can run..like a clydesdale, or a quarter hourse.

I know of one 8plex that can't keep films there since "legs" runs quick and runs out of steam by the 3rd week.

Then, you get a larger complex that can obtain clydesdale legs an keep the endurance going.

this 8plex opened up "ROTF" on wednesday, and I can safely bet, in two to three weeks, it'll be ready to be shoved in the cans after it's been moved to their 'throwaway' house.

-Monte

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Robert John Jeromson
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We ran 'Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring' for over 10 months, almost up until the release of 'The Two Towers', given that towards the end of its run it was down to one session a day but IMHO that counts as "legs"...

My question is this however, what measures success, the length of a run, or total box office. If 'ROTF' rakes in huge profits in its three weeks of solid box office, vs. any number of films that take three times longer than that to generate decent profit, surely 'ROTF' is more successful.

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Brad Miller
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Please continue the discussion about long film runs here.

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Stu Jamieson
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Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen is everything the first film should have been but thankfully wasn't. By some inexplicable alignment of the stars (or something) the Michael Bay Movie-O-Matic Machine™ managed to concoct a first film that was an entertaining and awesomely cool fighting robot flick (with a slightly boring middle section). With the second picture, however, Bay is back in the form which delivered such box office busting drivel as Bad Boys and The Rock.

Following on from TF1, the Autobots have formed an alliance with humans called NEST and have become a mechanical Team America: World Police style wrecking ball, indifferently ripping up cities and ancient ruins in an effort to destroy Deceptacon sleepers who have been living on Earth for 21,000 years (apparently), searching for some kind of sun harvesting machine built by an ancient evil race of Deceptacon elders. It's never explained why the Deceptacons didn't spend the intervening years ripping the planet apart looking for said device (and exterminating its human population in the process) nor is it explained how this plot in no way impinged on the Allspark story from the previous film. But such oversights generate barely a ripple in Michael Bay.

The first film was new and fresh; we hadn't seen anything quite like it before. However, failing to recognise that you can't be dazzled by the same effects twice, this film is merely more of the same. That's not to say that there isn't any entertainment value here, it's just that it is severely depleted and when you combine that with it's numerous drawbacks and excesses, what's left is a thin, vacuous shell of a movie. Even the poster art lacks the inspiration of that of the first film.

TF2's primary sin is that it pushes the comedy element way too hard! It's as if the producers said to themselves, "that was funny in the first film so let's increase it threefold in the second." (Note to Bay et al, a joke is only funny the first time.) So as a result we have repetitive, juvenile, humping dog jokes, an over abundance of tokenistic robot sidekicks and Sam's nutty parents being brought forth into a major subplot (sic).

And the films sins continue: A pop culture reference to swine flu looks and sounds like it was dubbed in post production. In fine Dungeons & Dragons tradition, no good guy dies who can't be resurrected again. Bumblebee's character was always more interesting when he spoke via his car radio, so despite getting his voice fixed at the conclusion of TF1 it's now inexplicably busted again. And as if Optimus Prime's serious headiness may interfere with the films new found juvenile funster image, he's removed from the plot for a large portion of the flick. The film is much poorer without him.

Attempts by the film to add faux depth to it's shallowness merely results in shallower shallowness. What meaning do declarations like, "God made us in His image. Who made him [i.e. Optimus Prime]?" have in this toy-fantasy universe? Particularly when the answer is clearly "Kenworth"!

The film is not coy in gently bludgeoning its audience with its allegorical sledge hammer either, the most distasteful of which is that on the "war on terror". Meg Fox's character iconifies everything which the public considers reprehensible about the Bush administration (sans the glamourous aesthetic) and it's served up to us as entertainment! She captures one of the enemy, extorts information from him by applying a blow torch to his eye and then confines him to a toolbox-sized prison cell. Later on she's seen leading him around on a chain. Is it any wonder the poor little guy ends up suffering from Stockholm Syndrome and is delightfully humping Meg's leg by the end. (Another humping joke!) It all leaves a rather sour taste in the mouth.

Of course this would be easier to swallow were the robots not personified to such a high degree; indeed it's a degree of personification which has transgressed to the point of meaninglessness. Old-timer robots have walking sticks, others have beards and testicles, Bumblebee is reduced to a sulking pet and a pair of clownish jive talkin' hip hop mofo robot twins is particularly cringeworthy.

TF1 treated the Transformer legacy with a measure of respect but this one exploits the franchise to the point of ridicule, cheapening the brand in the process and not even gigantic kungfu robots or Meg Fox's bouncy bits can atone for it's trespasses.

5 outta 10.

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Mike Blakesley
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I would like to know what they were thinking when they titled this film. Whenever I see it abbreviated Transformers ROTF my mind says "Transformers Rolling On The Floor."

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Burleigh Ibbott
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It is the second weekend for me showing Transformers 2 and it finishes on thursday with Ice age starting on a wednesday. Tonight im nearly sold out, so the film is good like Angels and Demons was for me> Im fortunate as i have a intermission in my film as it is a long film for all the 6yr olds watching it and it give the parents time to get another beer in. But what i like to know does anyone know a single screen cinema that shows a film longer than Two weeks bearing in mind the film companies conditions of not sharing a screen with another film?

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Stu Jamieson
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I think the film's full title is Transformers: ROTFLMAO.

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Mike Blakesley
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quote: Burleigh Ibbott
But what i like to know does anyone know a single screen cinema that shows a film longer than Two weeks bearing in mind the film companies conditions of not sharing a screen with another film?
I'll answer this question but in the topic "Long Film Runs" over in Film Handlers.

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